Earth's Role

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by Jeyl, Dec 27, 2012.

  1. Jeyl

    Jeyl Commodore Commodore

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    And you know happened with Star Trek over the years after TOS? It grew up. TNG included a pure blooded alien who was a primary character and DS9 gave us multiple alien characters who had many episodes dedicated to them even without the human characters.

    Star Trek grew from a series where humanity was the center of the galaxy to just becoming part of a much bigger and diverse galaxy where creatures that are not humans can be just as important in the grand scheme of things. Even WOMEN got to have a role more important than just being the receptionist.

    But with JJ's Trek, we've not only gone back to the human dominant crew, we've also gone back to a male dominant crew. Whatever alien looking crew members that are in these films will probably be lucky to have*just a split second of screen time or one word of dialogue.
     
  2. SalvorHardin

    SalvorHardin Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    What male dominant crew? Even on the bridge there were females all over the place besides Uhura.

    Deja vu.
     
  3. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

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    And Uhura is actually an important character in ST09 rather than eye candy/glorified extra.
     
  4. Shazam!

    Shazam! Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I know. I don't know what would have happened had she not been there to make out with Spock in a Turbolift.
     
  5. Franklin

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    Uhura seems to have a large and important part in "Into Darkness", too. And, Carol Marcus is an important character.

    There were a lot of strong women characters in TOS, too. Aliens and otherwise. Lest we forget, the original First Officer of the Enterprise was cast as a woman, Number One. However, the future had to fit the present, and a woman first officer didn't fit into 1960s TV-viewing sensibilities.
     
  6. DalekJim

    DalekJim Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Or take her shirt off. :rolleyes:
     
  7. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

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    Because those two scenes were the limit of her involvement. :rolleyes:
     
  8. DEWLine

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    Her skills as a xenolinguist, as a signals-intelligence specialist, were shown to be key to many things in the previous movie.
     
  9. Franklin

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    And Kirk never did either of those in TOS (well, not make out with Spock, anyway, but you get my point). :p
     
  10. marksound

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    Maybe someday when (if) we meet some real aliens we can produce some entertainment for them.

    :rolleyes:
     
  11. shapeshifter

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    I don't have a problem with these early adventures in the Nuverse being Earth-centric. 'Bout time, actually.
     
  12. Admiral Buzzkill

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    Well, Zoe had more to do in one movie than Nichelle Nichols has in the entirety of her association with Star Trek - and if they're going to have Uhura disrobe, better she do it now than waving a bunch of fans around in the desert when she's past middle age.
     
  13. Procutus

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    I'll go along with that. A few establishing shots of San Fran would be great, but I really don't want to see the majority of the film taking place there.

    I wish we'd get back to 'exploring strange new worlds', but I guess that not what nuTrek is about.
     
  14. Admiral Buzzkill

    Admiral Buzzkill Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    It wasn't what any Trek was about, 80 percent of the time.

    I guess the fact that I enjoy my real life and don't feel the need to "escape from Earth" may explain some of my enthusiasm for Abrams's stuff.
     
  15. marksound

    marksound Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Yup. Count me in on that.
     
  16. robau

    robau Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I do. Seriously, I really do. I want to see what normal life is like in the Utopia without the confines of a starship.

    They probably won't even show what I really want to see anyway. Stuff like what a citizen that doesn't work for Starfleet does for work. What someone does for transportation(I always wondered if transporters were common). Or what someone does for entertainment.
     
  17. Procutus

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    I enjoy my real life just fine; I'd just like to see Trek on the screen that felt a bit more like the source material.
     
  18. Phily B

    Phily B Commodore Commodore

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    I like it, if it's done right. I want to see Earth displayed as a paradise and something that we should strive for, like it was in the TV show.
     
  19. Admiral Buzzkill

    Admiral Buzzkill Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Well, this feels a lot more like TOS than anything else Paramount's done for thirty years or so. So it's good.
     
  20. Procutus

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    It's a matter of opinion, of which everyone is entitled to. I just don't find it all that similar.