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Old September 12 2014, 05:42 PM   #1126
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"Shamed survivor"? I think that might be pushing it a bit. The only reason he didn't destroy Luke is because the Falcon came out of nowhere to stop him. And it was Tarkin who was the overconfident one who didn't think the rebels would pose a threat, and who didn't prepare the Death Star properly.

I don't really see what Vader has to be ashamed about.
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Old September 12 2014, 05:54 PM   #1127
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Yeah, if anything Vader knew he wouldn't be held responsible for the Death Star's destruction and he had been the sole survivor of the battle station. The Empire may have lost the Battle of Yavin and the most powerful weapon in the galaxy but he managed to fly away from the scene alive and in one piece. He would get to have another shot at defeating the Rebellion, this time with vengeance in mind.

Don't really see where "shame" enters the equation.
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Old September 12 2014, 07:24 PM   #1128
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New clip:

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Old September 12 2014, 07:39 PM   #1129
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Vader does show some annoyance at the Moff's plan to interrogate Leia in a deleted scene (The scene actually appears-with new dialogue-in the Holiday Special of all places!).

Vader also faced a Grand Moff rival-Jerjorodd in the early ROTJ scripts. However the rivalry was cut and Jerjorodd (although referred to only as "Commander" in the film itself) was pretty much made into a minor character (Although he has some interesting deleted material in the blu-ray extras).

The idea of a rival for Vader eventually made it into the 'midquel' "Shadows Of The Empire" which is now no longer canon.
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Old September 12 2014, 07:42 PM   #1130
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Heh, that was actually a pretty funny video. And kinda fitting that they chose Grover to play Yoda as well, since they, like, have the same voice and all.
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Old September 12 2014, 09:08 PM   #1131
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And kinda fitting that they chose Grover to play Yoda as well, since they, like, have the same voice and all.
Well, they used to. Eric Jacobson has been Grover's main performer since 1998, and has taken over most of Frank Oz's other characters as well, though David Rudman took over Cookie Monster. However, apparently Oz does occasionally reprise his roles for Sesame Street, and that did sound like Oz's Grover in the clip -- although it was definitely Rudman doing Cookie Monster. However, if it was Oz, the Muppet Wiki hasn't been updated with the info yet.
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Old September 12 2014, 09:12 PM   #1132
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I like how the Cookie Monster knows that Groda reminds him of someone, but he's not sure who.
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Old September 12 2014, 09:16 PM   #1133
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"Only One Cannoli." And Snuffy in the background as a bantha.
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Old September 15 2014, 05:32 PM   #1134
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Artoo and Threepio.
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Old September 15 2014, 07:20 PM   #1135
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Nice.

The two droids could make almost anything in this universe better and more entertaining and I'm glad they'll be playing roles in the new series, however peripheral.
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Old September 16 2014, 12:54 AM   #1136
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davejames wrote: View Post
"Shamed survivor"? I think that might be pushing it a bit.
In "Heir to the Empire", Vader was punished by Palpatine over the destruction of the Death Star. Although obviously, that's not considered part of continuity anymore ....

"I don't imagine that the Emperor was pleased," Luke murmured. "No, he wasn't," Mara said, her voice dark with memories of her own. "Vader nearly died for that blunder." Deliberately, she looked over at Luke's hands. "That was when he lost his right hand, in fact."
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Old September 16 2014, 02:26 AM   #1137
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Actually, that's from page 266 of Dark Force Rising. ( NERD ALERT )
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Old September 16 2014, 02:34 AM   #1138
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Stephen! wrote: View Post
"I don't imagine that the Emperor was pleased," Luke murmured. "No, he wasn't," Mara said, her voice dark with memories of her own. "Vader nearly died for that blunder." Deliberately, she looked over at Luke's hands. "That was when he lost his right hand, in fact."
Mara again acting like a know it all. We all know Anakin lost his right hand against Dooku.
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