Who is the more Bad-A#$ villain: Ledger's Joker or Clarence Botticker?

Simple question, but I'm still trying to decide. I'm thinking it's gotta go to Botticker. He doesn't need to spend so much time planning to be as cruel as he is!

 

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It's simple - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o97uNzbBfis

 

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Red Foreman, dumb ass, or Clarence...

 

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Clarence Boddicker was one mean villain. The way he murdered Peter Weller's character in robocop is still very brutal to me.


Robocop: Murphy Dies

 

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Can you fly Bobby?

 

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Yeah, Kurtwood NEEDS to be Joker if only for that one line.

 

Re: Who is the more Bad-A#$ villain: Ledger's Joker or Clarence Bottic

Clarence. 100%.

 

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I'm voting Joker. As good as Clarence was, he was basically a small time henchmen. Joker brought Gotham virtually to its knees.

 

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Joker was pretty scary as far as Batman villains go, but Clarence was far more twisted and sadistic. Hell, just for the brutal killing of Murphy alone, not to mention all the other things he does in the movie (or the history of rape and murder we see in his long rap sheet).

He was also a lot funnier too, ironically.

 

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Clarence was an inventive sadist, but he was still an errand boy.

The Joker needed no guidance, and he terrorized not just the police, the law, and society; he terrorized Gotham's criminal element as well. Quite a reach for one little nut job without backing by a large corporation like Botticker, or a secret society like Bane.

 

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"Bitches leave". Damn right he was a badass.

 

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Got to go with Botticker.

Doesn't sound like an errand boy to me.

 

Re: Who is the more Bad-A#$ villain: Ledger's Joker or Clarence Bottic

Clarence walked up and plunged a giant-ass spike into the middle of Robocop's chest.

I'd call that pretty badass.

 

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Another thing that was awesome is Clarence was this balding man with glasses which made his badassness even more badass. In the 80s he was not a typical action movie villain.