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Old August 21 2014, 09:27 PM   #76
Tim Walker
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Re: Ships Traveling the Galaxy in the ST universe.

On another forum it was commented that in the Trek universe, it would take a probe a century to reach one of the dwarf satellite galaxies. If you think back....if you could have launched an intergalactic probe at the start of World War I, would you? Knowing that it wouldn't reach its destination until the year 2014?
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Old August 23 2014, 08:08 PM   #77
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Re: Ships Traveling the Galaxy in the ST universe.

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I don't know for sure if it's what Vonda had in mind, but DC Comics, whose ongoing series was loosely in continuity with the novels at the time, assumed "Galaxy class" meant what we now call "Miranda class" (although elsewhere they also used FASA's "Reliant class" designation for that ship type)

Rather than an amazing new ship type, I think the assumption was that the Kelvan superwarp formula was being used.
That would be interesting. A cross-canon engine design that is specifically for very long range travel.

Either Starfleet stopped making these in the 24th century, or perhaps they intended to send one to rescue USS Voyager....once one got home from another galaxy.
A proto FASA Decker class comes to mind--or that Bozeman concept Neil Rodis di would be a good candidate.

The way I might argue--is that some type of focal line (See deep space mission to the solar foci) allowed fast travel to a nearby cluster on a one time basis.
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Old August 26 2014, 07:50 AM   #78
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Re: Ships Traveling the Galaxy in the ST universe.

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On another forum it was commented that in the Trek universe, it would take a probe a century to reach one of the dwarf satellite galaxies. If you think back....if you could have launched an intergalactic probe at the start of World War I, would you? Knowing that it wouldn't reach its destination until the year 2014?
If you could start researching a technique for curing all diseases, or a completely renewable clean energy source, but know that the research wouldn't be complete in your life time, would you?
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Old August 26 2014, 12:57 PM   #79
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Re: Ships Traveling the Galaxy in the ST universe.

In today's society if it needed government funding? Probably not. If it goes past the chance that someone can gain political points for its success or failure, they just won't likely do it.
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Old August 26 2014, 01:17 PM   #80
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Government funding has never played that big a part in long term research, not even when terms in office were determined by the lifespans of kings. Yet researchers themselves readily engage in eternity projects, and quite often prefer those over immediate-return ones.

I doubt an intergalactic prove would really require government funding in the Trek environment. It's not astronomically high above personal transportation in complexity and cost after the 21st century - it's in fact fairly mundane business, quite comparable to today's or yesterday's engineers fiddling with cars and tractors to create tanks and roving robots. Or even hopping onto a stock car and driving around the world. The publicity alone would float the commercial boat.

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Old August 26 2014, 05:12 PM   #81
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Re: Ships Traveling the Galaxy in the ST universe.

So NASA isn't the government?

They have taken on, and continue to work on projects that will far exceed the term of the ones who were in office when they began. ISS? Mars mission? Hell, they've even allocated resources for R&D on a "warp drive". You can't get any more long term than that. How about Pioneer 10 for example? It was launched in the 70's and only stopped sending back data about 10 years ago.

The Department of Defense set up the Star Wars program which far outlasted Reagans term...

There's a million examples of projects beginning while someone is in office, and the project will far exceed their term.
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Old August 26 2014, 08:04 PM   #82
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Re: Ships Traveling the Galaxy in the ST universe.

I must be geting more and more cynical over time then. That or I keep listening to people that keep saying such long term projects are foolhardy because the results won't be seen for centuries, if ever. (warp drive, deep space exploration, and colonization projects specifically) and thus seen to brush them off as pointless projects.
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Old August 27 2014, 12:06 AM   #83
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Re: Ships Traveling the Galaxy in the ST universe.

That's understandable. It's easy to get bogged down by others. I choose to ignore most people. And instead put more emphasis on reading about things like history, philosophy, human discovery and exploration. Pundits are usually "experts" that want to make themselves seem smart by discrediting other peoples work, and being general debbie downers. I'd rather be inspired than inundated with negativity.
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Old August 27 2014, 11:47 AM   #84
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Re: Ships Traveling the Galaxy in the ST universe.

So NASA isn't the government?
And even more to the point, the government isn't the government? Bush Jr. readily launched a long term space exploration program without planning on giving it the necessary financial backing; starting is never a problem...

And once something gets going, somebody will find a way to make money on it. Sometimes this is by making it crash and burn, but more often it is by sustaining the project, mutating it, applying it, inventing new rationales for it, and piling up motivation and guilt on others to carry on the project (especially those parts of it that don't make money yet).

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Old September 3 2014, 08:58 PM   #85
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Re: Ships Traveling the Galaxy in the ST universe.

We have a World Series which doesn't include very much of the world, talk about the far corners of the world when everyone knows that the globe isn't pointy, and discuss the Arab World when there isn't another planet inhabited by Arabs orbiting the sun. Perhaps in the future the word galaxy has come to mean some closely related terms that when you use them, it's assumed that everyone knows the context.
For example, a galaxy might also refer to the group of stars which form around a supernova and the energy barrier is the shockwave of the explosion itself, or even something as mundane as the local star group.
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