Why was Q scared of Guinan?

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  1. Amaris

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    Like the fact that he's a chaos spreading Draconequus.
     
  2. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I read somewhere once (maybe the TNG Companion?) that the plan for Guinan was originally to reveal that she too was a being of immense power. Then someone realised she'd have to leave immediately after being discovered since it'd completely ruin the show otherwise, and the idea was dropped.
     
  3. Nerys Myk

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  4. svenden

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    This is great. Any cartoonists here? Seems a perfect companion to the excellent Chief O'Brien at Work strip...

    Q: Make me dinner, sweetie.
    Guinan: Snap your own damn fingers.
     
  5. Chronos

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    It's just another abandoned storyline, like what was done with Wesley Crusher and Kes.
     
  6. Nebusj

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    Well, that's silly. What would Wesley and Kes even have to talk about?
     
  7. C.E. Evans

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    While I always went with the idea that it was really something brought up and then soon dropped by the writers and producers, I like to think that it was because Guinan knew many secrets about the Q, including their actual weaknesses. Guinan holding up her hands when she squared off against Q was just an El-Aurian defensive reflex, even if it was a futile one, IMO (some people will still fight when hopelessly outmatched, even if they know they don't stand a snowball's chance in hell).
     
  8. JirinPanthosa

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    I kinda like the idea that Guinan was Q's last Vash. Picard can't be the first humanoid Q took an interest in. Guinan also seemed to have an idea what Q had in mind in that episode, maybe the Q previously "Tested" the El-Aurians as they were developing their extrasensory abilities, took a fancy to Guinan, and exposed them to the Borg.

    Now I really want that novel to exist. Has there ever been a novel that covered the Borg destruction of the El-Aurians?
     
  9. Chronos

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    "So they half-heartedly turned you into a superbeing because they weren't sure where your storyline was going, too?"

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  10. Gingerbread Demon

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    After which they spent some time making out.
     
  11. svenden

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    Well that book I mentioned earlier, Vendetta by Peter David, explored this - at least at some level. It's been sooooo long since I read it, I can't recall the specifics. But Picard, Guinan, and the Borg were the main players.
     
  12. Ronald Held

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    I had thought that the echo of Gunman had accumulated s lot of information on the Q continuum, which Q would not want any mortal to know.
     
  13. Sector 7

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    I always believed that Q introduced the Borg to Guinan's people. If so, she has every reason to mistrust and hate him. I, also, choose to believe that Guinan could have kicked Q's ass if she had chosen.
     
  14. Granola Gwen

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    This would have been a great plot twist.
     
  15. Maurice

    Maurice Snagglepussed Admiral

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    Nah. The hand gestures Guinan and Q made were just alien equivalents of flipping the bird. :D
     
  16. Gingerbread Demon

    Gingerbread Demon I love Star Trek Discovery Premium Member

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    Ah... So she was his ex knew it.
     
  17. stardream

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    Maybe he was afraid one of her hats would fall on him.
     
  18. JirinPanthosa

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    It's also possible that Guinan was Q's last Picard-like fascination and he constantly messed with her, but then at some point Guinan successfully went over his head and got the other Q to intervene and that made Q hate her forever.
     
  19. svenden

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    Or, building off that idea, perhaps Guinan had some sort of strong relationship with a different Q, who liked her so much s/he granted Guinan some sort of defense against the more naughty Q.
     
  20. Ithekro

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    Everyone in the know was afraid of the Guinan. Just the Federation and other local species were not in the know.