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Old August 5 2013, 02:50 PM   #31
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Re: Are Federation politicians immune to sex scandals?

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Did we see any other Deltan women besides Illia? Maybe she chose to shave her head for some reason. Perhaps the shaved head is part of the oath of celibacy?
Again, I refer to Enterprise where Mayweather describes a time when he was growing up when Deltans were visiting his family's freighter. He described all the women that visited as bald.

Now, okay, maybe being bald is only fashion thing that Deltan women choose to do. I suppose we could go all day with this.
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Old August 5 2013, 05:26 PM   #32
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He described all the women that visited as bald.
Umm, I don't think he did - at least not according to the transcript of "Bound".

The attributes given were "unbelievably attractive" and "very open about -", with the last bit cutely cut off by Travis dropping the weights he's lifting. No mention of baldness, but that doesn't mean much since lack of hair didn't slow down Mayweather in the butterfly girl scene of "Broken Bow". No mention of oaths of celibacy, either.

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Old August 6 2013, 01:18 AM   #33
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Re: Are Federation politicians immune to sex scandals?

After ST:TMP I concluded bald is beautiful. And I was 8 at that time.
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Old August 8 2013, 06:02 PM   #34
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Re: Are Federation politicians immune to sex scandals?

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Holodecks have eliminated the need for sex scandals.

I tend to think 24th century people are very progressive about any sort of consensual sex, so people have basically stopped caring.

@Timo

The Federation is a democratic body, but Starfleet is not.
The way the characters reacted to Geordi, Barkley and Quark using unlicensed representations of real people suggest there are still some taboos. It would be like producing porn today just using the likeness of someone else
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Old August 8 2013, 06:14 PM   #35
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More like producing porn, and using a computer to insert (so to speak) someone into the sex scene. In the future, do you control and "own" your image?

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Old August 8 2013, 08:18 PM   #36
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You can't even walk down a public street today without being monitored by any number of cameras. Even more so when everyone has a built in camera in their phone they can fit in their pocket. If you go out in public at all, I'd have to say what you look like is public domain.
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Old August 8 2013, 08:25 PM   #37
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Re: Are Federation politicians immune to sex scandals?

Yet even on DS9 were it was perfecting acceptable to use a holosuite to beat off. The public drew a line at using the image of Kira or Dax for that purpose. And if people react that way there is the possibility for a politician to go beyond the community's norms and lose enough votes to be a critical issue.
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Old August 8 2013, 11:05 PM   #38
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You can't even walk down a public street today without being monitored by any number of cameras. Even more so when everyone has a built in camera in their phone they can fit in their pocket. If you go out in public at all, I'd have to say what you look like is public domain.
Pretty fracking much, and the law agrees, too.
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Old August 9 2013, 11:54 AM   #39
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You can't even walk down a public street today without being monitored by any number of cameras. Even more so when everyone has a built in camera in their phone they can fit in their pocket. If you go out in public at all, I'd have to say what you look like is public domain.
Pretty fracking much, and the law agrees, too.
I don't think people are allowed to profit from someone else's image.

So people can be filmed by security cameras in public, and should have no expectation of privacy in that sense, it's quite another thing to license and sell someone's image for money.

Whether it works that way in the future Federation I don't think has been established. Holodecks on the Enterprise don't make a profit (unless people sell programs to Starfleet, but then you get into the whole "no money in the future" thing again).

As for Quark's, well...he would probably either find some loophole or change the image just enough to squeak by.
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