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Old August 31 2014, 10:41 PM   #136
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Re: Star trek re-imagined.

There isn't anything ridiculous about observing that being set on a space ship doesn't guarantee good ratings, and using a factual observation relevant to the era in which DS9 aired to back that up.
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Old September 1 2014, 05:34 AM   #137
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it's not a factual observation. It's a blanket statement for the purposes of playing devils advocate. It in no way shape or form encourages intelligent debate.
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Old September 1 2014, 05:47 AM   #138
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it's not a factual observation. It's a blanket statement for the purposes of playing devils advocate. It in no way shape or form encourages intelligent debate.
No, it's a perfectly factual observation that Voyager was set on a ship and its ratings went down.

In fact, the declining ratings curves of DS9 and VOY nearly overlay each other. See for yourself. Given the similarity in the downward slopes of their ratings, it's furthermore perfectly reasonable to wonder whether DS9 and VOY in fact suffered from similar problems, which would therefore be entirely besides the shows' respective settings.

There's nothing "devil's advocate" there, and it seems to me that you may have completely misunderstood the evident intent of Hober Mallow's remark.
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Old September 25 2014, 05:43 AM   #139
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Robots, Androids, genetic engineering, cyborgs, etc. is good. There is a serious dearth of "artificial" life forms in Federation society. Star Wars gets it right. I think they will be ubiquitous.

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There were the Soong androids, the exocomp robots, and Emergency Medical Holograms.

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Old September 26 2014, 01:42 AM   #140
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It occurs to me that Wagon Train To The Stars would actually be a convoy. Conceivably, the Hero ship might occasionally have business with such a convoy.

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Old September 27 2014, 04:31 PM   #141
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There is a serious dearth of "artificial" life forms in Federation society
There were the Soong androids, the exocomp robots, and Emergency Medical Holograms.
The exocomp basically prove Tarek71 point. When the Enterprise crew saw the exocomp they regarded it as unusual. Androids are almost completely absent, Data (and later a few others) are extremely rare.

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Old September 27 2014, 04:53 PM   #142
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I think one of the reasons why androids are rare is that they're not really needed all that much. With many things available at the push of a button or with a single voice command, the need for an automaton isn't all that great unless you absolutely just want to have one or are physically incapable of doing things (the majority of people in Trek don't fit that description and the few that do usually have a real person to assist them, IMO).

And although we tend not to think of them as such, the various automated probes launched can be considered a type of robot. Going where it might be too dangerous or infeasible for people to go.
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Old September 27 2014, 07:11 PM   #143
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As for the Soong androids, they seem to be just barely within reach of Federation technology, very difficult to make work, and with a very high rate of failure. And what is the point in making them, other than as an experiment?

I can see the Exocomps being useful in a niche role or two, so it might be worthwhile to make a few. Their small size makes it easy for them to work in cramped spaces.

Drone ships can be described as a sort of robot
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Old September 30 2014, 04:42 AM   #144
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There is a serious dearth of "artificial" life forms in Federation society
There were the Soong androids, the exocomp robots, and Emergency Medical Holograms.
The exocomp basically prove Tarek71 point. When the Enterprise crew saw the exocomp they regarded it as unusual. Androids are almost completely absent, Data (and later a few others) are extremely rare.

Androids, as being human equivalents in terms of function and social interaction, should be unique. Unless we have a Dune-esque prohibition against making a machine in the image of man.

But, it seems that menial tasks did involve more artificial life forms, such as the exo-comps, or Mark 1 EMHs, implying that holograms were used in other jobs. It makes sense, to a degree.

Also, you have the ship's computer in almost ever episode
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