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Old August 23 2013, 01:48 AM   #136
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I suppose that since she knows how they will kill her with that room, that she's steeled herself against further attempts at her doom there in in there.

If she's not an idiot, Anika would have spent the first week rewiring the place so that it was her dog.
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Old August 23 2013, 02:14 AM   #137
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I always wondered why they were so vulnerable to being suck-- I mean blown-- into space in Scorpion when they seemed to have magnetic boots and be immune to vacuum in First Contact.
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Old August 23 2013, 05:11 AM   #138
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It was the rush dragging them out.

Possibly, Chakotay could have polarized the deck plating which would have confused the Borg footware?

If there was a button to empty the cargo bay, rather than that they overrode every safety in the book, cancelling any and all magnetic locks or seals would just be sensible option depending on how completely they want to clean the place up.
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Old August 23 2013, 08:17 AM   #139
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Seven designed the holodeck program. It shows the way she thinks about herself & her relationships with others.

Most clearly, it shows that she thinks of herself as not fully human and not deserving of the things she desires (quarters, privacy, companionship) until she is "fully human." The tragic thing about that is that she never will be.

This is hardly a child's development.
Completely agree.

7 is never going to be easily labeled with an age other than physical, and even then she's Borg enhanced. She has had a very complicated existence that neither she or anyone else on board completely understand. It's not like she was in stasis for all those years, she retains much of her Borg life.

I think she suffers more from never having been a child of 7, 8, 9.. and a teenager than from purportedly being one because she was assimilated at 6.

Assimilated, grown in a vat, and then had her brain dumped with millions of individuals pains and experiences. She is not a child and she can never be a child again.
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Old August 23 2013, 10:31 AM   #140
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Seven designed the holodeck program. It shows the way she thinks about herself & her relationships with others.

Most clearly, it shows that she thinks of herself as not fully human and not deserving of the things she desires (quarters, privacy, companionship) until she is "fully human." The tragic thing about that is that she never will be.

This is hardly a child's development.
Completely agree.

7 is never going to be easily labeled with an age other than physical, and even then she's Borg enhanced. She has had a very complicated existence that neither she or anyone else on board completely understand. It's not like she was in stasis for all those years, she retains much of her Borg life.

I think she suffers more from never having been a child of 7, 8, 9.. and a teenager than from purportedly being one because she was assimilated at 6.

Assimilated, grown in a vat, and then had her brain dumped with millions of individuals pains and experiences. She is not a child and she can never be a child again.
Bravo. That is the tragedy of the character. Not her emotional immaturity that compares her to my niece. As if it was somehow her fault. How sad the Borg purged her understanding of your emotions of understanding because it was fucking irrelevant. Blame the victim.
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Old August 23 2013, 01:19 PM   #141
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I always wondered why they were so vulnerable to being suck-- I mean blown-- into space in Scorpion when they seemed to have magnetic boots and be immune to vacuum in First Contact.
probably because in First Contact they knew they were going out into space and prepared for it. In Scorpion they were suddently sucked/blown out into space quick with no warning
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Old August 23 2013, 01:26 PM   #142
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My other abrasive theory is that that is not Annika Hansen.

The Borg put the little 8 year old girl in a box somewhere and instead wrote code to create a mostly new personality which would drive that fleshy figure purposely through the Borg's Mission to destroy 8472, which a panicking child could clearly not.
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Re: Things you liked about voyager

I love Voyager because of it's humor most of all. It makes it unique. TNG, DS9, ENT, and TOS all have humorous moments, but VOY really feels the most light-hearted despite being in one of the most dire situations.

Without the characters of the Doctor, Seven, and Janeway I probably wouldn't love it as much as I do. I think the cast had good chemistry. Even if there were tensions off-set, I don't really care because when they did perform the humorous bits, I think they were done really well. It makes Voyager unique.

I also really love that it deviated from all of the pre-defined rules, AQ conflicts (with the exception of the Borg), etc...because they had no contact with Starfleet for years.
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