Qo'NoS or Kronos????

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  1. Nine of Four

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    I've seen the Klingon homeworld referred to as Qo'NoS and Kronos equal times, and I want to know which it "officially" is, canonically.
     
  2. Bad Thoughts

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    One's Pinyin, the other is Wade-Giles.
     
  3. iguana_tonante

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    I was going to say "Peking, Beijing, or 北京 ?" :D
     
  4. C.E. Evans

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    It's generally spelled "Qo'noS" but pronounced "Kronos."
     
  5. MacLeod

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    Which ever one the Chancellor decides will be used during his rule. ;)
     
  6. Bad Thoughts

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    Cologne, Cöln, Köln, Kölle, or Colonia Agrippina(though never Koln)?
     
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    I'm mad at JJ because of this.
     
  8. F. King Daniel

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    "Kronos" was up on the screen in huge letters in Into Darkness. Big shiny canon letters.
     
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    Istanbul not Constantinople.
     
  10. -Brett-

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    Far as I know, it's only ever been Kronos in canon. Qo'nos seems to only be a thing in novels, video games and the like. For whatever reason, fans seem to have latched onto it as well.
     
  11. Bad Thoughts

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    I count five letters that look like they begin with either O or Q. Of course, they were Roman letters, so they could not really be official.
     
  12. Captain Rob

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    Wasn't there a map visible from TOS that said "Kling" on it for the Klingon homeworld? Or maybe that's just the name of the star system.
     
  13. Nine of Four

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    I have observed the same. In all the movies/shows I have watched with close-captioning, they say "Kronos".

    It seems to be pronounced that way to.

    But in the novels/video games/comic books, it's Qo'NoS.

    I think I'm gonna go with "Kronos". Definitely more canon.
     
  14. iguana_tonante

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    Now the real question is... Kanon or Qa'non????
     
  15. Melakon

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    Apparently the native name for the Homeworld hadn't yet been determined by the time of TNG: Heart of Glory. Korris (Vaughn Armstrong) has a line to the effect of, "I would rather die than let the traitors of Kling pick the meat from my bones."

    Someone decided Kling sounded too wimpy or something, and they began trying to come up with a better name, which was retconned into everything else.

    Kronos however, instantly makes me remember a sci-fi movie from 1957 called Kronos, about a giant machine from outer space that lands on earth.

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  16. bbjeg

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    Marc Okrand came up with the spelling "Qo'noS" to fit his previously developed rules for Klingon orthography. Is it canonical if the creator of the Klingon language spells it Qo'noS? Maybe that's how Klingon spell it.
     
  17. BigJake

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    The way I understand it, it's Qo'noS using Okrand's version and Kronos Anglicized. It was used that way in later TNG and in the movies franchise running concurrently with that show.
     
  18. T'Girl

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    Wasn't Kronos one of the systems lords from Stargate SG1?


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  19. Sci

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    The idea is that both Qo'noS (the n is not capitalized) and Kronos are valid English-language transliterations of the Klingonese name for the planet -- the same way both Beijing and Peking are valid English-language transliterations of the Mandarin name for the capital of China, or that Gadhafi and Kaddafi are both valid transliterations of the Arabic name for the former dictator of Libya.

    Presumably, the actual Klingonese word contains sounds that don't have exact equivalents in English, and Qo'noS and Kronos are both attempts to replicate the word using English consonants, as is usually the case with differing transliteration schemes. Kronos is close enough for most practical purposes, but Qo'noS probably replicates the word more accurately.
     
  20. The Wormhole

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    That's actually from TNG's Heart of Glory. Specifically, Korris is of the opinion that modern day Klingons are "traitors to Kling."

    Cronus, actually.