Abrams Directing Star Wars

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by Kamdan, Jan 24, 2013.

  1. SalvorHardin

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    Some new comments from Burk

    http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/...ducer-bryan-burk-interview.html#ixzz2N3ERwBSi
     
  2. RAMA

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    ST09 was better than any of the Star Wars movies in my opinion, so JJ is going to have to do a lot to top himself and STID.

    I actually found this pretty amusing.:bolian:
     
  3. cooleddie74

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    Ringo Starr movie. :lol: You've got to like their sense of humor and perspective about everything.
     
  4. ITL

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    Well, Ringo does have a sci-fi heritage....of sorts....

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  5. Flake

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    I do wonder how JJ will get on with coming into a production that he does not have full control over. Lucas is clearly going to be attending meetings and speaking up about what he thinks should happen because it is very much his baby and he is protective of it. In addition to this many positions of producer & writers etc have already been taken up by people appointed by disney and lucasfilm.

    JJ is used to having full control over his Star Trek movies and can write & mould them into exactly what his vision is from the ground up. I dont think he will get this freedom on Star Wars.
     
  6. Flake

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    What this means for Star Wars fans is that JJ will be reigned in somewhat and probably his Star Wars movie will resemble Empire Strikes Back as closely as possible in a similar way that Super 8 resembled late 70s/early 80s Spielberg.

    This would be in contrast to what we have got with Star Trek XI and XII (frantic, fast pace, adrenaline rush.. quick cuts, tight editing, fast pans etc ADHD) because JJ wont be allowed to do that ????
     
  7. EnsignRicky

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    That is precisely the scenario I'm hoping for on this this film.

    It's not Abram's vision. He's just the next guy after Kershner and Marquand.
    And who's to say he'll even be involved beyond Episode VII?
     
  8. ChristopherPike

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    After "Punch it" cross-pollinating, a Star Wars character making "Make it so" or "Engage" cool again, will restore karma to the multiverse. :hugegrin:
     
  9. EnsignRicky

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    Maybe somebody will perform the Jedi Mind Meld.
     
  10. mos6507

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    Yet deserving, especially considering JJ's doubling-down on lens-flare in recent comments. Certainly there's lots to be critical about in Star Wars as it is, considering how shabbily Lucas handled the prequels.

    Lucas and JJ seem to be cut from the same cloth as far as being stubborn in doing things their own way and not listening to criticism. That's fine if you like their natural proclivities, otherwise it's highly annoying.
     
  11. M'Sharak

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    To which comments do you refer? Could you post a link?
     
  12. The Mirrorball Man

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    You could say the same thing about Stanley Kubrick, I don't see how that's a bad trait for a filmmaker.
     
  13. cooleddie74

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    Lucas being a stubborn, detail-obsessed filmmaker also led to American Graffiti, Episode IV: A New Hope and - as producer - Raiders of the Lost Ark.

    Being a stubborn sunnuvabitch isn't necessarily a bad thing. If they're capable of producing terrific screen product I say let them be stubborn. It never hurts to encourage advice and a more open and democratic atmosphere on a set but it's not a guarantee that the finished product will be any better.

    The first Flintstones film with John Goodman had dozens of writers and input and participation across the board and look what all that democracy and diversity of opinion got us.
     
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  14. Ovation

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    Good for them. Creators of artistic endeavours owe NOTHING to their "critics". NOT. A. THING. The critics are free to be unhappy with what they get, but they should not expect to be catered to. The audience has ZERO ownership of a creative product. They have the choice to like or dislike what is presented to them. They have the right to say why they like or dislike it. They have ZERO rights in terms of having their expectations met. That is entirely up to the creator.
     
  15. cooleddie74

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    Bullseye.

    Star Wars, Star Trek and other creations of the entertainment industry are not the public domain possessions of everybody in the audience. If you can't stand what the creator of a film, television series, work or literature or piece of music made then that's your right to say it sucks and has no redeeming qualities, but it wasn't the creator's duty to cater to your tastes.

    Like George Lucas and some of his directing efforts or not, but a long time ago he said in bold, no-nonsense language that he was making Star Wars movies the way he wanted to make them and to meet his own desires and sensibilities. If the audience loved them, that was wonderful. If they hated them, he'd be disappointed. But at the end of the day they were HIS films and he answered to nobody but his own expectations and wishes.

    George doesn't really "owe" the audience anything. Neither does J.J. They'll make the films they think will be fun and exciting and when they're finished they'll present them to the public for consumption. Naturally, they'd prefer it if you liked their movies but if you don't....that's not their problem. You didn't write it. You didn't foot the production costs. You weren't on the set almost every single day sitting behind the cameras. You're the audience....period.
     
  16. Nerys Myk

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    Keith Moon would be a better fit for JJ. More potential for 'sposhuns and lensflare.;)
     
  17. cooleddie74

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    It'd be the greatest film about a hotel party ever filmed.

    Just imagine the 3-D IMAX effects when the TV set hits the street below.
     
  18. Nerys Myk

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    And when the Rolls Royce rises from the swimming pool, heads will explode.
     
  19. cooleddie74

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    Breaking Star Wars news just hitting as we speak:

    The British collecting and fan website Jedinews (.co.uk) has just posted an update on their home page as well as over on Facebook.

    The Clones Wars has been cancelled. The Season 5 finale where Ahsoka quits the Jedi Order, abandons Anakin and walks away into the distance will be the end of it.

    There's a possibility any unaired stories that are currently under production could see DVD and BluRay release under the new Disney ownership, but the weekly television series appears to be dead.
     
  20. Rye

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    I have a great distaste for Star Wars, but perhaps it is more a film that Abrams is suited for. Honestly, the latest Star Trek movie was HORRIBLE. There was not nearly enough dialogue, nearly no sexy technobabble, and the idea of a reboot that branches off from the universe we know has severe complications. Why do all the ships look better than the Timeship from Voyager which design was most likely from the 29th century? Why are the crew so suddenly shoved into a position where even with how young and inexperienced they are, are given top-tier positions? Seems convenient for sequels, huh?

    What they should have done is dismiss the previous canon completely, and done a complete reboot. Now every time I think of the events after Nemesis, I get a head full of popular culture mediocrity. It just doesn't make sense.

    I'm just used to a level of quality in Trek, and the latest movie certainly did its job. It brought "Star Trek" to a larger audience. The problem? They aren't seeing the real Trek.