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Old April 4 2013, 07:41 AM   #196
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Re: Worst Star trek actor ever

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And I dare anybody to come up with clear reasons why Wes Studi would not have been a far greater Chakotay. Studi would have been for Chakotay what Nimoy was for Spock. He would have been a reason to watch the show. His interplay with Kate Mulgrew would have been phenomenal. Completely missed opportunity there.
Plus, Wes Studi is an actual First Nations person, unlike Beltran.
Actually, Beltran does have some Native blood. From his IMDb profile:

He is the seventh of ten children, of Mexican-Native American ancestry, though Robert describes his heritage as Latindio.
I would have gone with Graham Greene (Dances With Wolves) as Chakotay. Older, wiser, a real sense of gravitas. Would have set up a more interesting relationship between that chartacter and Janeway, IMO.
Graham Greene is actually only about a year and a half older than Robert Beltran - but I agree, he probably would have had his head a lot more in the game than Beltran did. Or maybe Tom Jackson, who's four years older.
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Old April 4 2013, 07:48 AM   #197
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Wang, Beltran, or the entire ENT cast.
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Old April 4 2013, 10:08 AM   #198
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Wang or Beltran, especially when set off against Ethan Phillips who could give real feeling to his character in spite of becoming a one note gag for much of the series. His professionalism should have shamed those two into silence.
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Old April 7 2013, 12:12 PM   #199
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^I'd also go with Beltran and Wang, the latter especially for his whining about how he didn't get to direct when he couldn't or wasn't willing to put in the hours to learn how to do it in the informal 'school' set up by Berman & Braga that helped Frakes, Burton, McNeil and Dawson become directors later on in life. If Beltran didn't like the show, he should have quit.
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Old April 7 2013, 01:25 PM   #200
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I don't think at all that Colm Meaney is the worst Trek actor but I do remember one TNG episode when O'Brien and Keiko were eating dinner. Something struck the ship and it shuddered, and O'Brien said, 'something's wrong!'. Something in his expression and delivery had my mother and I burst out laughing.
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Old April 7 2013, 02:06 PM   #201
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If Beltran didn't like the show, he should have quit.
Sure, it's not like Beltran was under contract ... oh wait.

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Old April 8 2013, 02:51 AM   #202
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The kids from the tng show "Disaster".
I actually thought that was one of the few episodes where I could stand having kids play a major role. They acted just like normal kids would in a situation like that and I loved how Picard had to let go of his initial uncomfortable attitude towards children and get them going.
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Old April 8 2013, 02:55 AM   #203
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If Beltran didn't like the show, he should have quit.
Sure, it's not like Beltran was under contract ... oh wait.


Maybe he should have just done a bad job and acted horri ... oh wait.
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Old April 8 2013, 02:58 AM   #204
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If Beltran didn't like the show, he should have quit.
Sure, it's not like Beltran was under contract ... oh wait.


Maybe he should have just done a bad job and acted horri ... oh wait.


He shouldn't complain TOO much. He did get a few romantic scenes with 7 near the end and that's gotta be worth something.
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Old April 8 2013, 06:45 AM   #205
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I would have gone with Graham Greene (Dances With Wolves) as Chakotay. Older, wiser, a real sense of gravitas. Would have set up a more interesting relationship between that chartacter and Janeway, IMO.
That's a pretty good suggestion. Beltran had some very lousy performances but occasionally some good ones. Definitely not what I'd call a seasoned actor, but certainly better than Blalock. She had only a handful of engaging moments in the series. Most of the time she was so stiff. I don't think she really got the gist of how to behave like a Vulcan. Mark Lenard was superb, perhaps even better than Nimoy. You could definitely see personality behind the wall of emotional control.

I'd say Crosby was the worst and I agree with what someone else said--it was good she ejected herself from the series when she did. How her career turned out afterward certainly tells a lot.
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Old April 8 2013, 11:31 AM   #206
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Robert Beltran. I think hes probably not that bad, but he just wasnt trying.

Chakotay's mouth said 'Borg cube closing fast', but Chakotay's eyes said 'Wheres my paycheck?'


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Old April 8 2013, 11:57 AM   #207
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I'd say Crosby was the worst and I agree with what someone else said--it was good she ejected herself from the series when she did. How her career turned out afterward certainly tells a lot.
About on a par with most Star Trek actors I'd say.
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Old April 10 2013, 02:14 AM   #208
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I'd say Crosby was the worst and I agree with what someone else said--it was good she ejected herself from the series when she did. How her career turned out afterward certainly tells a lot.
About on a par with most Star Trek actors I'd say.
Most Trek actors were not reduced to doing soft-core porn.
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Old April 15 2013, 03:06 PM   #209
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I'd say Crosby was the worst and I agree with what someone else said--it was good she ejected herself from the series when she did. How her career turned out afterward certainly tells a lot.
About on a par with most Star Trek actors I'd say.
Most Trek actors were not reduced to doing soft-core porn.
When did she do this, and in what movies.
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Old April 16 2013, 04:47 AM   #210
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About on a par with most Star Trek actors I'd say.
Most Trek actors were not reduced to doing soft-core porn.
When did she do this, and in what movies.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0284427/ Plus at least one other episode.
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