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Old July 2 2013, 11:15 AM   #91
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Re: TNG re-released on DVD

Oh right. Well 720p is HD, so it's not false advertising.

Then again, 480/576 was once considered to be "HD". I guess "High" is a relative term.
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Old July 2 2013, 01:41 PM   #92
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Well quite! And for HD TV broadcasts it's fine. But if you want the true "HD" experience from blu-ray, you really need to make sure you're buying the real thing.
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Old July 10 2013, 08:23 PM   #93
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The figures seem to show BD is gaining ground, or maybe just DVD continues to erode. Here in the US, when they advertise a new movie, they usually say "get it on BD or DVD" w/ BD announced first. However, the news media still have their "DVD review" or "release" sections, where they don't even mention BD. Anecdotally, very few people I know have a BD player, nor do they care. I don't even bother to proselytize any more.

from wikipedia on Blu-ray
A study by The NPD Group found that awareness of Blu-ray Disc had reached 60% of U.S. households. Nielsen VideoScan sales numbers showed that for some titles, such as 20th Century Fox's Hitman, up to 14% of total disc sales were from Blu-ray, although the average Blu-ray sales for the first half of the year were only around 5%. In December 2008, the Blu-ray Disc version of The Dark Knight sold 600,000 copies on the first day of its launch in the United States, Canada, and the United Kingdom.[51] A week after the launch, The Dark Knight BD had sold over 1.7 million copies worldwide, making it the first Blu-ray Disc title to sell over a million copies in the first week of release.[52]
Yes I know some people who have Verizon FiOS and have a 55" HDTV and only a DVD player. They watch stuff on DVR in HD or on-demand HD video or Hulu/Netflix streaming in HD. They don't care about Blu-ray but they also do not have a library that they collect or rewatch films.
I have a blu-ray player and only a 720p native 32" HDTV. It is older and having some green LCD issues. I will eventually replace it and be able to see blu-rays on a larger screen in full 1080p.

CBS Home video knows it is their last chance to release Trek TV on Blu-ray in the next 5-10 years.
With shows like Save Me & Untitled Michael J. Fox series being shot and mastered in 4k right now and Breaking Bad being remastered from 35mm to 4k right now there is a very short window on new releases to DVD after 2016.

CBS Home video is getting ENT and TNG out the door on Blu-ray. I can see them doing DS9 and VOY too to make the $ before blu-ray disappears as a physical format to sell the franchise products.
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Old August 24 2013, 08:46 PM   #94
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The only point to upscaling is so that the standard definition image can fill the screen. It doesn't make anything better, it doesn't turn it into HD, just lets it fill the screen.
That is part of it, but you seem to suggest that all upscalers are the same, and none of them offer better upscaling performance from one to another, which would be misleading at best.
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Old August 24 2013, 08:49 PM   #95
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The only point to upscaling is so that the standard definition image can fill the screen. It doesn't make anything better, it doesn't turn it into HD, just lets it fill the screen.
That is part of it, but you're kind of suggesting that all upscalers are the same, and none of them offer better upscaling performance from one to another, which would be misleading at best.
Performance, yes. Quality, no. No matter what algorithm, making 4 pixels out of 1 pixel will always just be interpolated. And interpolation is never the same quality as full sampling.
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Old August 26 2013, 10:38 AM   #96
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The figures seem to show BD is gaining ground, or maybe just DVD continues to erode.
The second one I believe is the case, the US is a bit ahead of the UK in killing off physical media, so with a lot of people replacing DVD purchases with streaming services and downloads, probably emphasizing Blu Ray when advertising a bit of physical media makes sense.

Anecdotally, very few people I know have a BD player, nor do they care. I don't even bother to proselytize any more.
Same here, Blu has settled into being a niche format, albeit a popular one, but will never approach DVD at it's peak. The catalogue releases are slowing right down now, and while I'd expect to see a Blu release for most new films for the forseeable future, anyone who has not jumped to Blu yet probably won't.

Both formats will probably die out in ten years or so.
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Old August 27 2013, 10:16 AM   #97
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Performance, yes. Quality, no. No matter what algorithm, making 4 pixels out of 1 pixel will always just be interpolated. And interpolation is never the same quality as full sampling.
How are you differentiating between performance and quality here?

Bicubic interpolation will look "better quality" than bilinear, which will look "better quality" than nearest neighbour, etc. So the quality of the upscaled image can differ depending on the equipment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_scaling
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