Bob Orci and the lost Shatner scene

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Are we talking about the same Eric Bana/Nero here? He was everything but badass ... I thought he was pretty cartoonish, in a silly way.

 

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Because he is wise.


Oso Blanco: it's all good fun. Don't take everything seriously that I post, mate.

 

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Nah, don't worry. It's just that I was so disappointed with the Nero character and Eric Bana's performance after all those promising trailers.

 

I just re-read Orci and Kurtzman's tale. Thank God they didn't do that. First, the were WRONG about a few facts:
1. Spock did not go to Romulus as an ambassador, as a matter of fact, The Federation thought initially he was a traitor and sent Picard and Data to get him.
2. For whatever reason he went, this was in TNG time where Captain Kirk was either dead from old age, or as we later learn (and as everyone in TNG time would know) disappeared on the Enterprise-B rescuing El-Aulerans (?). That's what Spock would also know as the demise of Kirk.

So he wouldn't have been around to make this message after Spock went to Romulus either way.

 

Yup, valid points!

 

Yes I would of liked that...even with Shatner starting and Pine finishing...that is a great idea why the hell didn't they consult with you???? I think that would of satisfied Shatner or orig. Kirk fans without going over the top or being too distracting etc...

Is it sooooooo wrong for our villian to have a little sensitivity or a little cry fest once in awhile? I mean he has feelings too...

 

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Pike as Kirk: "Jeez. When did they stop making Skim milk?"

 

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Shatner wouldn't have done a cameo, for one, and that's certainly what this birthday message would have been.

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Shatner starting...Pine finishing.

Hmmm.

You know, that would have sounded pretty damn awesome!

 

The idea of Kirk recording a message to his younger self makes no sense. Spock being sucked into the blackhole was something unexpected so why would he have a recorded message for his younger self?!?

 

Probably why Abrams (wisely) chose not to include it or even offer it to Shatner.

 

If someone was paying attention, they'd know that the writers never suggested that Kirk would be recording a message to himself, but to Spock on the latter's birthday.

 

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Oh I totally agree. Shatner killed Kirk off, and we all know he asked to do it. I was not ragging on Eric Bana's performance at all. I was a bit apprehensive, as I didn't care for him in the Hulk, but he kicked-ass as Trek villain.

 

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But his "echo" is still there in Generations, remember Guinan? She was still in the Nexus AND on the Enterprise at the same time.

 

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Not asking the icon of Star Trek his opinion on anything is totally unwise.

 

I'd just as soon have The Shat beam on to the bridge with Gaila slung over his shoulder, point a finger at Pine and scream, "Namby Pamby! She got off the Hood, AND SHE'S MINE!" Then he disappears!

Pine stands up out of the center chair and screams: "SHHHHHAAAAATTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

Shatner would've deserved more than that. Such a small cameo would be disrespectful, imo. Better to leave him out of it entirely that to bother him with that

 

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Same thing for Spock in TUC and "Unification Pt. 2".

Sheesh.

 

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That'd be a great idea... For a Shatnerverse novel.

 

I'd have him come back, as an older kirk in this timeline. Making an Alternate Reality actually made a better chance of seeing Shatner in a movie in this timeline, since they can cast him as an older Kirk. He can go out of the Nexus, in the nuVerse.