Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1st

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  1. Lindley

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    Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

    Wagons East!
     
  2. MacLeod

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    Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

    To quote Churchill

    It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.

    Sometimes what happes is that a party or parties are elected to office which hold views different from our own. Now there can be many reasons for this amongest which is that the party which most cloesly holds similiar views to ours didn't do a good enough job of selling itself to the electorate. So it has to try harder next time around.
     
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    Fareed Zakaria had a good article on CNN recently. One thing he said which really stuck with me was that in a democracy, the process is more important than the outcome.

    Bringing the process to a halt because you don't like the outcome is very anti-democratic.
     
  4. cooleddie74

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    A lot of them are forgetting it. Conveniently so. Others just don't care because it's about the cheap political points and nothing more.

    Besides, if these clowns cared about the sequester it would never have happened in the first place. It's all about trying to make Obama look bad and torpedoing the second term.
     
  5. Tora Ziyal

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    Indeed it is.

    And while I'm here, an interesting article by Andrew Sullivan.
     
  6. Yanks

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    All kind of cuts could be made.

    Knock 200 billion off the Defense Department. All kinds of redundancy across the branches of service.

    Eliminate the Department of Education. The Founding Father are still rolling in their graves. The State can handle education.

    Implete the Penny Plan (look it up) and balance the budget in 9 years.

    Eliminate the Department of Energy... what do they do anyway?

    Institute the Fair Tax and eliminate the IRS.

    The list goes on and on...

    But they never cut.... never....
     
  7. Yanks

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    No, I have no idea... please explain it to me. :rolleyes:

    The ACA will account for at least 6 percent of GDP, it was stupid to pass it without bu-partisan support. They are now understanding that.

    The ACA is a Democrat (Hillary) pipe dream... it's too bad the media decided the 2008 elections.
     
  8. cooleddie74

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    Of all the things the Founding Fathers of this democracy could be rolling in their graves over, I sincerely doubt the existence of the federal Department of Education since the late 1970's would be one of them.

    And for the record: the Department of Energy is responsible for this nation's still-huge arsenal of nuclear weapons among other duties. A simple Google or Wiki search of the DOE would explain what it does and its responsibilities.

    Whether you like and agree with it and its very existence or not is entirely up to you.
     
  9. Yanks

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    TEA Party across the board. :techman:
     
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    He said reasonable Republicans. Not bat-guano insane reactionaries and borderline sociopaths who think the country hasn't been any good since the DuMont Network existed.
     
  11. Tora Ziyal

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    This just might be the only thing I've read of yours that I actually agree with.

    For starters, some unimportant little stuff like policy regarding safe handling of nuclear material. (Oops, sorry, eddie, I was writing at the same time you were.)

    Someone still has to administer and collect this so-called Fair Tax. If the IRS were abolished, they would just create a new agency or expand the duties of another.
     
  12. iguana_tonante

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    Good grief. Isn't education bad enough in Red States? :lol:

    You lose the election, you don't get to decide shit. It's pretty straightforward, really.
     
  13. Yanks

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    Bull$hit.

    The ACA was NOT written as a tax, it was interpreted as one.
     
  14. Yanks

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    So, the DOW does do something :lol:

    Aside from that, I'll bet there is TONS of room to slash.

    You need to read up on the fair tax.
     
  15. Yanks

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    Had to look up "DuMont Television Network" :lol:
     
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    Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

    By a court. And a conservative Republican Chief Justice and four others. Who all decided that the ACA is constitutional and legal for the reasons listed in the text of the printed decision. Five justices of the High Court who have a helluva lot more knowledge and experience with the United States Constitution and interpreting the laws of this vast country than anybody on this message board and likely most of us combined.

    You can call the Court ruling bullshit if you want, but it changes nothing about a center-right GWB appointee as Chief Justice saying it's proper and legal.
     
  17. Yanks

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    I can't wait until the Dems are in the minority party again...
     
  18. Yanks

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    The Federal Department of Education serves no purpose but to affect education and is dependant on the party in charge. It should not be in existence.

    And sadly, I don't get to cut anything.
     
  19. MacLeod

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    If a clean bill was presented before the house, the Tea Party members would be able to vote No to the bill. They might lose but that's demorcay at work.

    They want to delay certain provisions of the PPACA for a year, does anyone here really think that come 2014, they wouldn't try delaying them again for another year, then the same story in 2015?
     
  20. Yanks

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    That's an unsatisfactory argument.

    Can't you say the same for the over 1000 waivers given (unlawfully) and that delay in for the businesses as well?
     
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