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Old April 16 2014, 03:13 AM   #136
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Re: Why is Tasha Yar hated?

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It seems the only person who had an issue with the environment was Muldaur alone. What does that suggest? It's not like TOS was all sunshine and roses anyway, given some of the internal drama that's come out since.
Yeah, but you know ... everybody on TOS was mostly men, including GR. She was young and pretty and she's on the show getting all this attention, "Diane! We love having you, guest for us! You're so beautiful and talented - you're really going to make a name for yourself ..." and it was genuine, I'm sure. She was all those things. And the roles she was given on TOS were devoid of politics of any kind. They needed a babe-of-the-week, and she filled-in, nicely.

But when TNG came around, she was middle-aged and playing a crusty old lady whose job it was to bitch to all the characters, especially everybody's friend Data. I'm sure that Gates was pretty vocal about not appreciating being used as just a pretty decoration, at a time when TNG really needed team players. Marina always was, but her charater was always having to find stuff to do. So she felt her job was in jeapoardy, though it never really was, because she had the right attitude.

Getting rid of Gates was a bad decision and she had to come back. As I understand it, Sir Patrick Stewart was the one who eventually persuaded her to come home. The situation was not stacked, at all, in Diane's favour. She was basically a 'scab', as it were, and was treated as such. Nobody gave a shit, this time, that Diane was onboard, except maybe for Gene. It was a matter of Time, that's what it was. "You Can't Go Home Again," and this is a case in point.
Strongly put, but as far as I can tell pretty accurate really.

The existing TNG cast gave her the could shoulder because she was effectively the "Captain's Pick", parachuted in by Gene Roddenberry to replace the popular Gates (who had been sacked in very dubious circumstances). Only Michael Dorn was apparently happy-go-lucky enough to treat Muldaur cordingly, admitting even nowadays that he thinks she was great.

So the wider TNG cast's treatment of her was... at least understandable on some level, even if it does seems somewhat petty in the cold light of 25 years later.

It doesn't help that according to some sources, the producers used Gates' firing as a stick to beat down potential rebellion with. If a cast member raised any issues, their agent would be cheerfully told to remember what happened to Gates.

Basically Gates being fired left a sour taste hanging over season two, which wasn't remedied until season three when Berman (now more firmly in charge of the show) went out of his way to bring her back, as he was pretty much opposed to her being fired in the first place.
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Old April 16 2014, 10:51 AM   #137
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Re: Why is Tasha Yar hated?

It's great that Michael Dorn took a liking to Diane Muldaur and treated her like a Human Being on the set. As for everyone else, I don't know. Stress, especially alot of it, will definitely cause someone to lose their objectivity and to withdraw, to a certain degree. I'm not trying to excuse dissing a friendly coworker, I'm just saying that if the situation weren't so stressfull, Diane would've probably gotten along with everyone, just fine, onset. Whether that would've been enough to make her feel welcomed, or a valued member of the team, or given her any artistic satisfaction, who can say? But the original series celebrated Diane's involvement and contributions much more and I suspect that would've been the case, no matter what.

The Chief Medical Officer of the ENTERPRISE wasn't her gig and the "Bones" parallels were completely inappropriate for the time and setting her character was in, anyway. When Bones harassed Spock, Spock harassed back. Sometimes Spock would even harass Bones without provocation. Not passionately, or anything, but enough to be nettlesome to the good doctor. Data, however was incapable of that. He simply did not have the capacity for saracstic wit. Humour of any kind was almost beyond his reach, but he recognized that people often have a good time with it, so he kept trying. Cutting someone down to jibe them, or whatever, was simply beyond Data's programming. So that it became "picking on" Data, and even though that's not the intent, that was certainly the outcome and it wasn't amusing. Not that it was enough to take offense at, but it did beg the question, "what's your problem, bitch?" And that Gene Roddenberry wouldn't have recognized this dilemma, even when he first came up with recycling this Original Series scheme, is kind of telling that maybe he'd lost some of his edge, due to illness, old age, or whatever.
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Old April 17 2014, 02:15 AM   #138
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Only Michael Dorn was apparently happy-go-lucky enough to treat Muldaur cordingly, admitting even nowadays that he thinks she was great.
And she apparently liked him, too. At least, she said she "liked the black guy."
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Old April 17 2014, 08:03 AM   #139
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So she could have been referring to Levar Burton.
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Old April 17 2014, 05:28 PM   #140
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So she could have been referring to Levar Burton.
No, the interviewer asked, "Levar Burton?" and she said, "no." LOL...
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Old April 23 2014, 01:12 AM   #141
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So that it became "picking on" Data, and even though that's not the intent, that was certainly the outcome and it wasn't amusing. Not that it was enough to take offense at, but it did beg the question, "what's your problem, bitch?"
Maybe not enough to "take offense at" but that aspect of the character makes me groan almost every time.
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Old April 23 2014, 10:29 PM   #142
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I don't want to make it like I hate Pulaski. My feelings are quite the reverse, actually. Diane Mauldar (sp.) was so friggin' CUTE on TOS, especially when she was in her miniskirt uniform, and it always makes me smile, to see Dr. Pulaski getting kissed up by Captain Kirk. Who could blame him? I sure as hell couldn't!

So, seeing her in TNG is sweet, it's just that old and crusty stuff that's only so much bullshit. Watching it in action was all the evidence Gene Roddenberry should've needed to understand - and realise - that he'd recycled maybe once too often and it was time to start tapping into some creativity. Pulaski only needed just a few modifications to work and be successful in the series.

One, which I would've advocated would be to bring back Gates, first off, but to have Pulaski be a doctor working under her. Just having them argue with eachother over patient diagnosis and stuff like that might've really been interesting. But ... we got what we got. It was still great to see her and I was happy that her history tied in with Riker's by way of his father. I could easily see her, because of TOS, turning a young Kyle Riker's head - ending up as close together as a bride and groom ...
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Old April 25 2014, 12:08 AM   #143
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Re: Why is Tasha Yar hated?

There was also this scene cut from the beginning of the third season which explained Dr. Pulaski's departure.
I was hoping it would end with her elevator (turbolift ) ride, or lack thereof.

But that was good enough
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