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Old August 4 2013, 09:35 AM   #76
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Re: Vengeance Weapons (Spoilers, maybe)

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^They were photon torpedo launchers, according to the dialogue. I'm thinking gigantic versions of those little pop-up rapid fire launchers on the USS Kelvin.
Oh. I thought the pop-up rapid fire launchers on Kelvin were just nuTrek phaser banks.
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Old August 4 2013, 09:54 AM   #77
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Re: Vengeance Weapons (Spoilers, maybe)

I thought so at first too, but the (admittedly early) script on IMSDB mentions the Kelvin firing phasers and photon torpedoes and since we saw giant red beams firing, the blue bolts must be mini torpedoes.
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Old August 4 2013, 10:35 PM   #78
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Warp coil rail guns maybe--not unlike what accelerated the Warp 9 probe Worf's lady used....Usually so powerful only starbases can firethem.

But Vengeance is a flying starbase.
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Old April 1 2014, 08:04 PM   #79
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Warp coil rail guns maybe--not unlike what accelerated the Warp 9 probe Worf's lady used....Usually so powerful only starbases can firethem.

But Vengeance is a flying starbase.
Is it possible that this is is the basis of all photon tech? With the being an uncharged warp coil, and the photon launcher "charging" that casing with a warp field to fire it? It makes more sense than the photon launcher just being magnetic rail excelerator, especially given k'ehleyr was able to fit in a probe/torpedo casing. There is no way she would fit in it if there had been some kind of warp propulsion inside the casing.
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Old April 1 2014, 08:33 PM   #80
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Yet photon torpedoes are always shown leaving their launchers at a snail's pace, compared with the concept of them reaching another ship hundreds of thousands of kilometers away in no time flat, let alone them doing warp. Independent acceleration after an essentially "swim-out" launch is what the visuals would be consistent with.

Perhaps torpedoes attain their speed after launch by firing a separate booster stage? Basically, you shove the warhead into the launch tube, automation adds the booster like one would add the bag of cordite into a cannon after the shell, and both are spat out in a brilliant ball of light that makes it impossible for us to see the booster stage.

A regular torp can then maneuver and, if necessary, slow down using those four engine nozzles astern. K'Ehleyr's gutted probe cannot...

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Old April 1 2014, 08:52 PM   #81
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Re: Vengeance Weapons (Spoilers, maybe)

Some concept art showing a load of extending photon torpedo launchers which weren't used in the movie.
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Old April 13 2014, 10:41 PM   #82
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That's slick...
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