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Old August 29 2014, 11:39 PM   #2056
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Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

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We might see a synthesis of the two approaches.
I could see Luke following the OT style, but the new Jedi using the PT style.
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Old August 30 2014, 12:51 AM   #2057
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I just don't want to see Luke twirling his lightsaber over his head like a baton. Lol
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Old August 30 2014, 05:07 AM   #2058
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Well, I just hope Luke fights a bit more impressively than he did in the OT. He doesn't need to do acrobatics, but the OT lightsaber duels really do seem too slow at times (although they usually made up for it with atmosphere) So, maybe having much less acrobatics than the prequels, but faster sword movement than the OT would be a good way for Luke to go about fighting as an older Jedi Master, while any younger lightsaber fighters do a more energetic style like the prequels.
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Old August 30 2014, 04:41 PM   #2059
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Yeah the battles were pretty slow in ANH and ESB, but things sped up quite a bit for ROTJ. Luke was swinging that lightsaber around pretty quickly during the Sarlaac sequence, and the final battle with Vader got pretty fast and intense towards the end as well. It still may not be as fast and frenetic as the prequels, but they definitely did speed things up.

I will say though, for being a supposed trained Jedi, Luke sure didn't seem to have much of a technique. He swings his lightsaber around so wildly on the skiff that it almost looks like Han and Chewie are about to get sliced at a couple points as well. Lol
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Old August 30 2014, 05:22 PM   #2060
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I will say though, for being a supposed trained Jedi, Luke sure didn't seem to have much of a technique. He swings his lightsaber around so wildly on the skiff that it almost looks like Han and Chewie are about to get sliced at a couple points as well. Lol
Well Luke did leave before his training was finished. And TESB the movie didn't show Luke training with the lightsaber unlike in the novel. In the novel Yoda would throw a metal bar into the air while Luke was running and Luke, if he were a full Jewdi was supposed havve been able to cut the bar into seven pieces.
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Old August 30 2014, 07:51 PM   #2061
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That might be a good explanation in retrospect, but I doubt Lucas really wanted him to seem that untrained. Or want us to think Luke hadn't received any lightsaber training simply because we didn't see it onscreen.
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Old August 30 2014, 08:12 PM   #2062
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That might be a good explanation in retrospect, but I doubt Lucas really wanted him to seem that untrained. Or want us to think Luke hadn't received any lightsaber training simply because we didn't see it onscreen.
Luke's skill with a lightsaber wasn't needed to turn Anakin, Luke was stupid enough to throw away his lightsaber before facing Palpatine. In the end the important was putting Luke into the position to turn Anakin, it's fairly obvious that Luke had no realy chance of beating Palpatine on his own.
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It's great how the last moments of the final confrontation between the Emperor and Luke mirrors Anakin's choice when seeing Mace Windu about to strike down Palpatine almost a quarter-century earlier. In both films Anakin Skywalker must make the crucial decision to save somebody important to him: the first choice led to his conversion to a Sith Lord and a life condemned inside life support armor, the second was his redemption and the rescue of his own son and in the process he fulfilled the Jedi prophecy of the Chosen One.

Whatever we may often think of George's writing and directing, his conscious decision for the themes and many of the events in his films to rhyme across the wide expanse of the Saga was a great and often poignant thing and I'm glad he did it.
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Old August 30 2014, 10:19 PM   #2064
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Seeing ESB, it might be nice for the sabers to hit things other than other lightsabers and the body. Part of what made ESB's last fight intense was Luke and Vader often missing and damaging parts of the Carbonite freezing room, the vane and the railing.

A lot of the fight also didn't have any score either (Although John Williams did compose music for the scene which was cut from the movie but came with most versions of the soundtrack) which I think helped the atmosphere. Come to think of it most of the OT used minimal score in the lightsaber scenes.POST-ROTJ, it seems to be mostly some kind of epic score like Duel of The Fates or Battle of the Heroes instead.
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