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Old April 9 2014, 07:46 AM   #376
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MH370 missing plane: two new signals picked up
Two sets of further pings have been detected in the search for the missing Malaysia Airlines plane, prompting authorities to declare that the aircraft will be found “in the not too distant future”.

Angus Houston, the search coordinator, said the sets of “much weaker” signals – believed to be from the plane’s black box pinger – were detected on Tuesday, with one at 4.27pm, local time, lasting 5 minutes and 32 seconds and another at 10.17pm lasting 7 minutes.

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“Hopefully in a matter of days we will be able to find something at the bottom that might confirm this is the last resting place of MH370,” he said. “We don’t get certainty until we have a visual sighting.”

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Old April 9 2014, 11:03 AM   #377
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Two sets of further pings have been detected in the search for the missing Malaysia Airlines plane, prompting authorities to declare that the aircraft will be found “in the not too distant future”.
So the plane will be found next Sunday, A.D.?
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Old April 9 2014, 01:19 PM   #378
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Looking at the map, there's 4 locations within 17 miles or so.

How many things from the plane send out signals? Or could a given one seem in different spots?
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Old April 12 2014, 05:32 PM   #379
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I am very impressed with the design of this ship
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADV_Ocean_Shield

How the bow seems to reach up and all but surround the foc'sle, it seems to have been built with freak waves in mind.

And with that helipad up top, I wonder if the bridge windows ever get wet.

The visibility must be great with that de facto sun shield.

I wonder if James Cameron could lobby for his old ride to be used:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akademik_Mstislav_Keldysh
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Old April 12 2014, 10:35 PM   #380
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Looks like an inverted bow (sometimes referred to as an X bow) type ship.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_bow

It's supposed to improve handling in rough seas and cause less hydrodynamic drag, which is better for fuel economy.
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Old April 14 2014, 02:24 AM   #381
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Think we've now reached the point where the media is reaching for any stories that it can relate to the missing Aircraft.

First the murdoch press was reporting that the co-pilot made a cell phone call just before it disappeared (and we've discussed why that would be very unlikely) now it's reporting the plane was flown like a fighter to avoid radar.
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Old April 14 2014, 02:33 AM   #382
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Marc wrote: View Post
Think we've now reached the point where the media is reaching for any stories that it can relate to the missing Aircraft.
I think we passed that point a couple weeks ago.
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Old April 14 2014, 05:46 PM   #383
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CNN is reporting the co-pilot's cell phone "searched for service" at a point they came within range of a tower, but no call was placed.
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Old April 14 2014, 09:06 PM   #384
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Think we've now reached the point where the media is reaching for any stories that it can relate to the missing Aircraft.

First the murdoch press was reporting that the co-pilot made a cell phone call just before it disappeared (and we've discussed why that would be very unlikely) now it's reporting the plane was flown like a fighter to avoid radar.
Well, certainly the press is milking the story. However, your post has a bit of hyperbole. The press reported that the airliner changed course to avoid some land as well as changed altitude, however I never heard it described it as flying like a fighter.

It's also now widely reported that the co-pilots cell phone searched for a tower.

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Old April 18 2014, 02:40 AM   #385
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US Navy drone sub has searched 90 Sq. Kms today...no luck..

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-27048242


This will take months..if not a couple of years..if not more

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_447
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Old April 18 2014, 02:52 PM   #386
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In the case of Air France, they found the wreckage quickly. They haven't even found wreckage for this crash...
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Old April 18 2014, 04:33 PM   #387
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2 years for Air France is inflated. Most of those 2 years were obtaining permissions and other bereaucratic paper work. Only a couple of months were required or the actual under water search. Of those couple of months, only 8 days were required once they used the correct drift model.

For Air France, they found wreckage but didn't hear the pingers.

Nothing is guaranteed but I am optimistic that it won't be years for MH370.

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Old April 18 2014, 10:23 PM   #388
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Will they find the plane? I share your optimism that they will.

Will they find answers? That's something else.
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