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Old May 14 2015, 12:28 AM   #1741
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Re: Wiped Episode Discoveries

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I'm befuddled with the BBC's decisions. I know its all about money and sales, but why do stories like "The Underwater Menance" get two animations, while "Web Of Fear", which is arguably the better story with only one missing episode, only gets a telesnap (and no extra). Meanwhile, others like "The Crusade", another goodie which is also missing two, seem to be completely ignored.

I guess I shouldn't complain. I'll take whatever they give us. But since they have all these telesnaps and the complete soundtracks for all episodes, why didn't they reconstruct all of them that way for the "Lost In Time" collections? I would like to at least be familiar with the stories like "The Dalek's Master Plan" and "Evil of the Daleks"
Honestly, I wasn't crazy about any of the animations other than "The Invasion." I actually preferred the telesnap recon on "The Web of Fear."
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Old May 14 2015, 05:22 AM   #1742
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I don't like the animations. I liked the narration with telesnaps.
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Old May 14 2015, 07:15 AM   #1743
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I vastly prefer animation over telesnaps. Hell, its a TV show, not a sideshow. Its either a full-on audio story, or a TV story.

I hope, if they truly never, ever find any other episode, they'll employ decent animation to present the rest of the missing episodes.
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Old May 14 2015, 01:05 PM   #1744
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Re: Wiped Episode Discoveries

Most of the animation of Missing Episodes is Sub-par, but, I generally prefer the Animation to the Recons. The one exceptions is The Tenth Planet episode 4, which has such a good Telesnap recon (The Telesnaps moving changing very often), that I barely notice it's a recon, rather than an existing episode, so, in this specific case, I do prefer the Recon.
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Old May 14 2015, 01:44 PM   #1745
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I enjoy the animated reconstructions, even if they mostly look similar to Adult Swim flash animation shows.
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Old May 16 2015, 01:44 AM   #1746
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I don't normally bother watching the animations. I thought the Reign of Terror and Tenth Planet ones were well done but the rest were average to poor.

I'd rather listen to the audio recordings again.
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Old May 28 2015, 03:38 AM   #1747
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I don't normally bother watching the animations. I thought the Reign of Terror and Tenth Planet ones were well done but the rest were average to poor.

I'd rather listen to the audio recordings again.
See, those were my least favorite animations. I didn't like those attempts at some kind of 3D realism. They really backfired in "The Reign of Terror." Barbara looked hideous. Susan's neck looked enormous. And Ian looked unrecognizable. And everyone had such deep shadows under their lower lips that it looked like they all had soul patches.
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Old May 28 2015, 10:52 AM   #1748
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I don't normally bother watching the animations. I thought the Reign of Terror and Tenth Planet ones were well done but the rest were average to poor.

I'd rather listen to the audio recordings again.
See, those were my least favorite animations. I didn't like those attempts at some kind of 3D realism. They really backfired in "The Reign of Terror." Barbara looked hideous. Susan's neck looked enormous. And Ian looked unrecognizable. And everyone had such deep shadows under their lower lips that it looked like they all had soul patches.
But at least they tried to realism. The animation for The Invasion looked like a poor Nickelodeon cartoon.
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Old May 28 2015, 10:58 AM   #1749
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Please. The Invasion animation looks great. Visual dis-continuity aside with Zoe's clothing in the first episode, the episodes animated actually improve the narrative.

Reign of Terror's animationis a unprincipled mess. Literally ruins the flow. I lament the Levine-sided animation team didn't get to present their Reign of Terror animation properly.

Tenth Planet is OK, I suppose.
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Old May 28 2015, 12:26 PM   #1750
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Let's not forget that the budget for doing those animations was a fraction of what people would normally spend to produce an episode of a TV show.

And the reason there haven't been any more or a release for ready-to-go TUM is pure economics. Unlike the rest of the BBC these releases have to make a profit and with the DVD market they way it is that's unlikely. We're living in a world where even current shows are no longer getting released (The Simpsons!) or if they were getting a Blu-Ray and DVD release now only get a DVD one (too many to list). So half-missing black and white shows from 50 years ago...

The other problem is that with Dan Hall having moved on from BBC Worldwide there apparently isn't anyone there now who sees any point in making any effort with Classic Series material. So we get stuff like this, where the non New Series episodes are a "Bonus Feature".
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