The best episode of TNG - Final Part

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  1. BlueStuff

    BlueStuff Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Something a little different for the final round. To proceed as normal, it would be over very quickly indeed, so here we have the winners and runner ups of each season:

    Season One: The Arsenal of Freedom
    Wild Card: 11001001
    Season Two: The Measure of a Man
    Wild Card: A Matter of Honor
    Season Three: The Best of Both Worlds (I)
    Wild Card: Yesterday's Enterprise
    Season Four: The Wounded
    Wild Card: Redemption (I)
    Season Five: Ensign Ro
    Wild Card: The Inner Light
    Season Six: Ship in a Bottle
    Wild Card: Timescape
    Season Seven: Lower Decks
    Wild Card: Parallels




    *RULES*

    Give what you consider to be the worst/your least favorite episode ONE point, and briefly explain WHY. Be sure to copy and paste the list with your point added. When an episode reaches 3 points, it is eliminated. Then a NEW round begins (in this thread) with the numbers restored to 0. Vote ONCE per round.



    The Arsenal of Freedom - 0
    11001001 - 0
    The Measure of a Man - 0
    A Matter of Honor - 0
    The Best of Both Worlds (I) - 0
    Yesterday's Enterprise - 0
    The Wounded - 0
    Redemption (I) - 0
    Ensign Ro - 0
    The Inner Light - 0
    Ship in a Bottle - 0
    Timescape - 0
    Lower Decks - 0
    Parallels - 0
     
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  2. KNH

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    My vote here goes to 11001001. The A-plot about the Bynars was entertaining and decent, but the B-plot with Riker's holo-ho always felt tacked on and detrimonial to the episode to me.

    The Arsenal of Freedom - 0
    11001001 - 1
    The Measure of a Man - 0
    A Matter of Honor - 0
    The Best of Both Worlds (I) - 0
    Yesterday's Enterprise - 0
    The Wounded - 0
    Redemption (I) - 0
    Ensign Ro - 0
    The Inner Light - 0
    Ship in a Bottle - 0
    Timescape - 0
    Lower Decks - 0
    Parallels - 0
     
  3. Canadave

    Canadave Vice Admiral Admiral

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    My vote goes to "The Arsenal of Freedom." Just never did much for me.

    The Arsenal of Freedom - 1
    11001001 - 1
    The Measure of a Man - 0
    A Matter of Honor - 0
    The Best of Both Worlds (I) - 0
    Yesterday's Enterprise - 0
    The Wounded - 0
    Redemption (I) - 0
    Ensign Ro - 0
    The Inner Light - 0
    Ship in a Bottle - 0
    Timescape - 0
    Lower Decks - 0
    Parallels - 0
     
  4. HaventGotALife

    HaventGotALife Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    The Arsenal of Freedom - 1
    11001001 - 1
    The Measure of a Man - 0
    A Matter of Honor - 0
    The Best of Both Worlds (I) - 0
    Yesterday's Enterprise - 0
    The Wounded - 0
    Redemption (I) - 0
    Ensign Ro - 0
    The Inner Light - 0
    Ship in a Bottle - 0
    Timescape - 0
    Lower Decks - 0
    Parallels - 1

    Just because a character changes uniforms doesn't mean that the episode puts forth an interesting idea. Added to that, Worf and Troi? Ick.
     
  5. TroiFan4ever

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    Season One: The Arsenal of Freedom
    Wild Card: 11001001
    Season Two: The Measure of a Man
    Wild Card: A Matter of Honor
    Season Three: The Best of Both Worlds, Part 1
    Wild Card: Yesterday's Enterprise
    Season Four: The Wounded
    Wild Card: Redemption, Part 1
    Season Five: Ensign Ro
    Wild Card: The Inner Light
    Season Six: Ship in a Bottle +1
    Wild Card: Timescape
    Season Seven: Lower Decks
    Wild Card: Parallels

    I'm giving "Ship in a Bottle" a point. It was an alright episode and it had potential, but it needed better writers.
     
  6. Pseudo

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    The Arsenal of Freedom - 2
    11001001 - 1
    The Measure of a Man - 0
    A Matter of Honor - 0
    The Best of Both Worlds (I) - 0
    Yesterday's Enterprise - 0
    The Wounded - 0
    Redemption (I) - 0
    Ensign Ro - 0
    The Inner Light - 0
    Ship in a Bottle - 1
    Timescape - 0
    Lower Decks - 0
    Parallels - 1

    I've added one to Arsenal of Freedom and reinstated the scores that the previous poster seems to have wiped. ;)

    Season One contains no great episodes and few good ones. Arsenal of Freedom fits in to another category entirely.
     
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  7. Harvey

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    I'm eliminating "The Arsenal of Freedom." It's an okay episode, but only okay. Like the rest of season one, it suffers a lot of production problems and has wobbly writing. Back to zero, I guess.

    11001001 - 0
    The Measure of a Man - 0
    A Matter of Honor - 0
    The Best of Both Worlds (I) - 0
    Yesterday's Enterprise - 0
    The Wounded - 0
    Redemption (I) - 0
    Ensign Ro - 0
    The Inner Light - 0
    Ship in a Bottle - 0
    Timescape - 0
    Lower Decks - 0
    Parallels - 0

    ELIMINATED:
    1. The Arsenal of Freedom
     
  8. KNH

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    So, can we stick to what we said in round 1 or do we have to come up with something new now?
     
  9. BlueStuff

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    You can stick to what you said in the previous round as long as that episode remains.

    11001001 - 0
    The Measure of a Man - 0
    A Matter of Honor - 0
    The Best of Both Worlds (I) - 0
    Yesterday's Enterprise - 0
    The Wounded - 0
    Redemption (I) - 0
    Ensign Ro - 0
    The Inner Light - 0
    Ship in a Bottle - 1
    Timescape - 0
    Lower Decks - 0
    Parallels - 0

    My point goes to Ship in a Bottle. Moriarty struck me as very foolish, and the episode suffers from the TNG cliche of being completely inconsequential.
     
  10. Geck

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    11001001 - 0
    The Measure of a Man - 0
    A Matter of Honor - 0
    The Best of Both Worlds (I) - 0
    Yesterday's Enterprise - 0
    The Wounded - 0
    Redemption (I) - 0
    Ensign Ro - 1
    The Inner Light - 0
    Ship in a Bottle - 1
    Timescape - 0
    Lower Decks - 0
    Parallels - 0

    Giving my point to Ensign Ro - it's a bit slower than many of the others, and I've never liked the way Riker was written in this episode.
     
  11. KNH

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    Well then, pretty much repeating myself:

    My vote here goes to 11001001. The A-plot about the Bynars was entertaining and decent, but the B-plot with Riker's holo-ho always felt tacked on and detrimonial to the episode to me.

    11001001 - 1
    The Measure of a Man - 0
    A Matter of Honor - 0
    The Best of Both Worlds (I) - 0
    Yesterday's Enterprise - 0
    The Wounded - 0
    Redemption (I) - 0
    Ensign Ro - 1
    The Inner Light - 0
    Ship in a Bottle - 1
    Timescape - 0
    Lower Decks - 0
    Parallels - 0
     
  12. Mojochi

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    I'm going to add another point to 11001001, and I agree. Of all the plot lines in this selection, both primary & secondary, Minuet is the lamest. This strikess me as an episode which might have been much better, had it been done later in the series, & they revamped that subplot around a more worthwhile guest actress, like the way that Famke Jansen was written for. I never did get what was so special about Minuet, because the actress herself was rather fake

    11001001 - 2
    The Measure of a Man - 0
    A Matter of Honor - 0
    The Best of Both Worlds (I) - 0
    Yesterday's Enterprise - 0
    The Wounded - 0
    Redemption (I) - 0
    Ensign Ro - 1
    The Inner Light - 0
    Ship in a Bottle - 1
    Timescape - 0
    Lower Decks - 0
    Parallels - 0
     
  13. Jerikka Dawn

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    11001001 - 2
    The Measure of a Man - 0
    A Matter of Honor - 0
    The Best of Both Worlds (I) - 0
    Yesterday's Enterprise - 0
    The Wounded - 0
    Redemption (I) - 0
    Ensign Ro - 1
    The Inner Light - 0
    Ship in a Bottle - 1
    Timescape - 0
    Lower Decks - 0
    Parallels - 1

    I'm adding a point to Parallels. The Worf/Troi subplot was kind of distracting, not really bad or anything, I just felt it really didn't follow, even within the parallel quantum universe he was occupying. Plus I like all the other ones better. I did like Borg universe shaggy-beard Riker though.
     
  14. MHT1138

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    11001001 - 2
    The Measure of a Man - 0
    A Matter of Honor - 0
    The Best of Both Worlds (I) - 0
    Yesterday's Enterprise - 0
    The Wounded - 0
    Redemption (I) - 0
    Ensign Ro - 1
    The Inner Light - 0
    Ship in a Bottle - 1
    Timescape - 0
    Lower Decks - 0
    Parallels - 2

    I am adding a point to Parallels because I agree that the Worf Troi subplot was weird.
     
  15. Pseudo

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    Goodbye 11001001, the A-story is a pretty neat idea, but the Riker/holodeck stuff is dull and the portrayal of Minuet is unconvincing.

    The Measure of a Man - 0
    A Matter of Honor - 0
    The Best of Both Worlds (I) - 0
    Yesterday's Enterprise - 0
    The Wounded - 0
    Redemption (I) - 0
    Ensign Ro - 0
    The Inner Light - 0
    Ship in a Bottle - 0
    Timescape - 0
    Lower Decks - 0
    Parallels - 0
     
  16. Tiberius

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    Casting my vote for Parallels. It as a good idea, but it kinda fell flat along the way.

    The Measure of a Man - 0
    A Matter of Honor - 0
    The Best of Both Worlds (I) - 0
    Yesterday's Enterprise - 0
    The Wounded - 0
    Redemption (I) - 0
    Ensign Ro - 0
    The Inner Light - 0
    Ship in a Bottle - 0
    Timescape - 0
    Lower Decks - 0
    Parallels - 1
     
  17. Canadave

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    Voting for "Timescape." Not a bad idea, but the execution was flat.

    The Measure of a Man - 0
    A Matter of Honor - 0
    The Best of Both Worlds (I) - 0
    Yesterday's Enterprise - 0
    The Wounded - 0
    Redemption (I) - 0
    Ensign Ro - 0
    The Inner Light - 0
    Ship in a Bottle - 0
    Timescape - 1
    Lower Decks - 0
    Parallels - 1
     
  18. Supernuke

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    The Measure of a Man - 0
    A Matter of Honor - 0
    The Best of Both Worlds (I) - 0
    Yesterday's Enterprise - 0
    The Wounded - 0
    Redemption (I) - 0
    Ensign Ro - 0
    The Inner Light - 0
    Ship in a Bottle - 0
    Timescape - 1
    Lower Decks - 1
    Parallels - 1

    Voting for Lower Decks. I thought the acting was pretty terrible in this one.
     
  19. Harvey

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    I like "Timescape," but it's a pretty inconsequential standalone adventure. Thus, it gets my vote.

    The Measure of a Man - 0
    A Matter of Honor - 0
    The Best of Both Worlds (I) - 0
    Yesterday's Enterprise - 0
    The Wounded - 0
    Redemption (I) - 0
    Ensign Ro - 0
    The Inner Light - 0
    Ship in a Bottle - 0
    Timescape - 2
    Lower Decks - 1
    Parallels - 1

    ELIMINATED:
    1. The Arsenal of Freedom
    2. 11001001
     
  20. Geck

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    Ensign Ro, for the same reasons as I gave above.

    The Measure of a Man - 0
    A Matter of Honor - 0
    The Best of Both Worlds (I) - 0
    Yesterday's Enterprise - 0
    The Wounded - 0
    Redemption (I) - 0
    Ensign Ro - 1
    The Inner Light - 0
    Ship in a Bottle - 0
    Timescape - 2
    Lower Decks - 1
    Parallels - 1

    ELIMINATED:
    1. The Arsenal of Freedom
    2. 11001001