Most Powerful Beings in Trek

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  1. Kooz

    Kooz Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    Thinking about Q, the various entities that Kirk ran into, the future folks from the Temporal Cold War, Species 8472, the guy who got Voyager lost out there, etc. Who are/have been/will be the most powerful beings in the universe (not just galaxy)?
     
  2. Methos

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    0 (Zero or Nil) ranks pretty high up there... as does (*)...

    Pretty sure the God of Sha Ka Ree is on the list as well... not as high as Q, 0 or (*) though...

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  3. lurok

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    Vger. Unlike 'God', it had its own starship.
     
  4. TiberiusMaximus

    TiberiusMaximus Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Robau. No contest.
     
  5. Drago-Kazov

    Drago-Kazov Fleet Captain

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    Q can destroy it with a fingersnap.
     
  6. SimpleLogic

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    I think the most powerful would be the Q, the Organians, and the Metrons. Possibly whatever new life form that was born out of the merging of Decker & V'Ger.

    (*) was literally laughed away. The One was destroyed by Klingon disruptors. (Or at least severely crippled by them) Gorgon took his power from children who are fickle anyway.

    0 would have been interesting had he actually appeared as a threat on any of the series.

    And Gary Mitchell would have been a threat but he was thrawted by his old nemesis: a boulder.:p
     
  7. DonIago

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    I've got to give it to Q myself.
     
  8. Dream

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    It was quite funny how many superbeings there were on TOS. :rommie:

    One of the things I really liked about TNG was that they created a single superbeing and took the time to develop the character over the entire years.
     
  9. Ronald Held

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    The top of the heap would be" tbose who would not be named". More powerful then the Q.
     
  10. SimpleLogic

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    Voldemort?:guffaw: :rofl: :wtf:
     
  11. DonIago

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    Imhotep?
     
  12. REDrake

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    Caeliar.

    And possibly Tribbles. They are unstoppable.
     
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  14. Timo

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    The funny thing about superbeings is that they usually don't have to follow the annoying conventions and limitations of linear time. Which means that even if we catch them at a moment of seeming weakness (usually of their own doing, as the Q were very adept at creating boulders they themselves couldn't lift, and didn't need Kirk to do it for them), they may well have been more powerful earlier on and later on, and this moment of weakness is just them being young and silly.

    We all know and hate the "small universe syndrome", but it does make in-universe and dramatic sense that every superbeing would indeed be "young Q". That is, if you are a superbeing of any worth, you will continue to evolve, and you will reach perfection, and there is just one perfection, which is unity in Q. Of course, it then follows that Pakleds would be future Q, too...

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  15. Vanyel

    Vanyel The Imperious Leader Premium Member

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    I thought a Douwd would rank right up there with Q.

    Who are O and (*)?
     
  16. Timo

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    The novels give the symbol (*) to the beast that fed on negative emotions in TOS "Day of the Dove". Apparently, 0 was an entity invented by Greg Cox for his Q Continuum novels that sort of ties the otherwise forgettable (*), along with dozens of other superbeings, to the Q concept.

    Timo Saloniemi
     
  17. Mr Silver

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    0 is similar to Q, but from an alternate universe. As a result, it seems that many of the rules of the Star Trek universe don't apply to it.

    Asides from the non-corporeal beings, one could make a case for the Borg, at least where Peter David's Before Dishonor is concerned. In that novel, the Female Q materialises on a Borg ship and is eventually told that while she has been speaking, the Borg have been analysing her and chillingly reveal that it's only a matter of time before the Borg conquer the Q. Even in live-action Trek, Q seems to hold a certain caution towards the Borg, especially when he tells Q Junior that "You don't provoke the Borg!"
     
  18. Hando

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    I am kind of split on the Borg vs Q front.
    On one side the Borg are able to assimilate non-humanoids/non-beings (I am not sure where I got this. I think it was something Seven said in VOY "by the way" when she was talking about some acquired technology).
    Additionally, the Q Continuum may be an extra-dimensional realm and the source of a Q's power - as was hinted in VOY. SO the Borg may be able to enter. (something of a cross between fluidic space and Unimatrix Zero).

    On the other hand "You don't provoke the Borg!" may just mean that they will went their frustration on lesser species. :shrug:


    But to the OP question we should make a list:

    1. Them
    2. P Continuum
    3. Q Continuum
    4. M Continuum (Manraloth and co?;Melony?)
    5. 0
    6. Organians
    7. The One
    8. Metrons
    9. Nacene
    10. Gorgan
    11. (*)
     
  19. Xhiandra

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    Hastur?
     
  20. Vanyel

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    The writers.