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Old August 29 2014, 12:49 PM   #31
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Re: 500 Million Year Old Fossil Found of Uknown Species Discovered

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I can't help feeling that these discussions would do better in Misc.
Oh, I dunno, TNZ woiuld find them... informative. :demon:

You would think that humans and apes would have evolved right along with the rest of the species on Earth from the very beginning.
Um. Um. Um. Really?

oooook, I'll bite.

Yes, humans and apes, and elephants and ants, and tigers and snails should have started to evolve from the very beginning and they DID!
it's just that their eventual shapes and forms were never determined back then.
life on this planet (for the most part) is a single unbroken branched chain of ancestors and decendents.
Some branches became dead ends and those species at the end of them became extinct.

but every living organism today can trace it's origin back to the very first living cells and technically even the very first self replicating RNA molecules.
And thus, yes, evolution of every lifeform on this planet started back then.
We just shared a lot of the road with 99.9% of every other lifeform somewhere on the way and looked a lot different back then.
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Old August 29 2014, 05:00 PM   #32
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Re: 500 Million Year Old Fossil Found of Uknown Species Discovered

I think one of the biggest reasons people misunderstand evolution is this image:


Iconic, and one of the worst examples of science communication there is.

I think it is representative of the fundamental misunderstanding of evolution that most people have; that it is a straight line of progress to an endpoint, and that the endpoint is man. The image imparts the false notion that we evolved from chimps as well, leading to the whole, "If we evolved from monkeys why are there still monkeys?" line. People need to have more familiarity with the cladogram, as it is a much more accurate representation of how evolution actually works.

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Old August 29 2014, 05:24 PM   #33
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Re: 500 Million Year Old Fossil Found of Uknown Species Discovered

I love cladograms and cladistics in general. MORE, PLEASE.
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Old August 29 2014, 07:27 PM   #34
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Re: 500 Million Year Old Fossil Found of Uknown Species Discovered

My rap name is MC 5 Million Year Fossil.
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Old August 29 2014, 11:13 PM   #35
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I love cladograms and cladistics in general. MORE, PLEASE.
You might want to check out the work of Tufte--
http://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/

--but maybe you already did.

I love all those different kinds of maps where the geography is exaggerated as per income, water, etc.

That and the cortical homunculus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortical_homunculus
Shades of Ron Mueck or Evan Penny
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