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Old November 14 2014, 04:42 AM   #1726
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Re: Wiped Episode Discoveries

Not just Bleedin Cool, but specifically this Rich Johnson guy - all the crap has come under his byline.
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Old December 10 2014, 02:34 AM   #1727
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So it looks like Ian Levine was a big fibber...

But at least Underwater Menance on DVD seems likely

http://www.kasterborous.com/2014/12/...nd-omnirumour/
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Old December 10 2014, 03:52 AM   #1728
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I think Ian is torn. On the one hand, he desperately wants to see newly recovered Doctor Who. On the other hand, he'd be all too thrilled if Morris fell flat on his face.

I don't think Ian has any inside knowledge about what Morris has or has not found. His ramblings are all based on alternating/competing hopes and fears.

I also don't think Morris has found anything. However, he failed to issue denials about finding DW episodes just to keep himself in the public eye.

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Old December 10 2014, 10:37 PM   #1729
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Re: Wiped Episode Discoveries

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So it looks like Ian Levine was a big fibber...

But at least Underwater Menance on DVD seems likely

http://www.kasterborous.com/2014/12/...nd-omnirumour/
And the missing episodes will be animated.
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Old December 10 2014, 11:35 PM   #1730
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I'm befuddled with the BBC's decisions. I know its all about money and sales, but why do stories like "The Underwater Menance" get two animations, while "Web Of Fear", which is arguably the better story with only one missing episode, only gets a telesnap (and no extra). Meanwhile, others like "The Crusade", another goodie which is also missing two, seem to be completely ignored.

I guess I shouldn't complain. I'll take whatever they give us. But since they have all these telesnaps and the complete soundtracks for all episodes, why didn't they reconstruct all of them that way for the "Lost In Time" collections? I would like to at least be familiar with the stories like "The Dalek's Master Plan" and "Evil of the Daleks"
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Old December 11 2014, 12:09 AM   #1731
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As you say, it's all about money and sales. Decisions on animation aren't made based on story quality, but on the likelihood of a story selling enough copies to justify the high-by-DVD-budget-standards cost of animation. "The Underwater Menace" on DVD will be the home video debut of a missing episode, so it's almost certainly going to sell more copies than the already-released episodes of a no-famous-monsters pure historical like "The Crusade" would. "The Web of Fear" is a special case for obvious reasons: the decision was made to rush it and "Enemy" to DVD in a way that precluded the production of any substantial extras.

Still-based recons are less expensive than animation, but they're not free either, and Lost in Time was produced on a tight budget-- that's why it's one of the few classic series DVDs not to have audio commentary on all episodes. Reconstructing dozens of episodes would have been well beyond its remit. (And of course they don't have telesnaps proper for all episodes, though there are other image sources for recons of episodes Cura didn't cover.)
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Old December 11 2014, 12:15 AM   #1732
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Re: Wiped Episode Discoveries

mythme wrote: View Post
So it looks like Ian Levine was a big fibber...
Being fed false information is not the same as inventing the fib.

The question would be who started the lie? Phil has never publically claimed to have more. Never outright denied it though.

Time will tell. I don't think we are entirely done yet.

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Lost in Time was produced on a tight budget-- that's why it's one of the few classic series DVDs not to have audio commentary on all episodes.
The Beginning doesn't either. There's an irony that the most average of episodes from later on all have commentaries, but some of the pivotal episodes in the first 13 missed out.

Its strangely due to Matthew Waterhouse the policy changed. When they came releasing trilogies they'd already banked two of his stores. So they couldn't just do six episodes with 4 of the 6 being from one story.
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Old December 11 2014, 12:34 AM   #1733
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So it looks like Ian Levine was a big fibber...
Being fed false information is not the same as inventing the fib.

The question would be who started the lie? Phil has never publically claimed to have more. Never outright denied it though.
Didn't want to box himself in. Probably thinking 'I'm sure they're out there, they've gotta be out there, I just haven't found them yet - and once I go through everything I have gotten, I might be pleasantly surprised. I sure as hell don't want to be the one to slam and lock the door once and for all on fans' hopes (including my own).'
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Old December 11 2014, 03:41 AM   #1734
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No, Morris didn't denied that it was in the material he found even after years.

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Old January 29 2015, 08:21 PM   #1735
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Not a missing Who episode, but this seems the appropriate place for the news:
William Hartnell's 1965 appearance on Desert Island Discs has been recovered.
It was, briefly, up on the DID section of the Radio 4 website earlier today, but has been taken off - whether that's because the demand was crashing the server, or just because it wasn't supposed to be available ahead of the official announcement reportedly due on Saturday, is anybody's guess. But fingers crossed it'll be back up and available again soon.

Edit: Seems it's 16 mins out of the full 35 min programme, missing the introductory chat ahead of his first record choice.
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Old January 29 2015, 09:50 PM   #1736
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Sounds like a good bit to include as a bonus if "Marco Polo" or something is ever found and/or released.

Still waiting for further news on Troughton's "Underwater Menace"
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Old January 30 2015, 10:10 AM   #1737
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diankra wrote: View Post
Not a missing Who episode, but this seems the appropriate place for the news:
William Hartnell's 1965 appearance on Desert Island Discs has been recovered.
It was, briefly, up on the DID section of the Radio 4 website earlier today, but has been taken off - whether that's because the demand was crashing the server, or just because it wasn't supposed to be available ahead of the official announcement reportedly due on Saturday, is anybody's guess. But fingers crossed it'll be back up and available again soon.

Edit: Seems it's 16 mins out of the full 35 min programme, missing the introductory chat ahead of his first record choice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVg85OSgeGk

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Still waiting for further news on Troughton's "Underwater Menace"
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v...type=2&theater

(I'm guessing the above link is legit, again could be yet another fan trailer...)
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Old January 30 2015, 01:46 PM   #1738
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The trailer came out with "Moonbase" before the announcement that it was put on hold, But in December the BBC said it would come out sometime this year...rumor has it in July
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Old Yesterday, 07:45 PM   #1739
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The Hartnell DID is back up, to stream and as a podcast (http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/radio4), along with three other newly recovered editions from the 60s: with Thomas the Tank Engine writer W Awdry, Diana Rigg and Louis Armstrong.
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