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View Poll Results: Rate The Poisoned Chalice.
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Old February 13 2014, 09:22 PM   #211
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Didn't like this as much as I was hoping too, despite liking the idea of Riker making Admiral. I think the problem is the role it's been assigned within The Fall series.

That said, I enjoyed Vale's plot and the Klingon response to the "grave dishonour" was very Klingon! Martok remains one of my favourite Trek characters and his brief scene here was excellent.

Ishan? I just cannot buy him as the villain, he was bad in ACoL, he's worse here but I don't think anyone could make this character work for me either.
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Old February 28 2014, 12:26 AM   #212
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Finished this book a little while ago. It was my first James Swallow novel and I must say that he's a very good writer. I enjoyed Poisoned Chalice though I thought it was a bit long.

Some of things that stuck out to me were Riker's promotion (which I liked), how chilling Kincade became in only a few short pages (I wish both she and Sahde had stuck around a little longer), Velk's fate which I wasn't expecting, Atia (I kept thinking of the TV show Spartacus when I read her dialogue).
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Old October 27 2014, 04:21 AM   #213
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Just finished this - really enjoyed it

This book has done a fantastic job of moving from the concentrated plot of Bashir in Ceremony of Losses to the wider political arena, and has left enough enticing plot threads that I've ordered Peaceable Kingdoms from the library - I want to find out what Tom's up to!

I loved the Lionheart and her crew - have they appeared in any novels before? Any chance we'll meet them again?
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Old October 27 2014, 09:48 AM   #214
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With James' Cast No Shadow and The Poisoned Chalice, I could do with more shadowy espionage TrekLit by him, the man has a talent.
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Old October 27 2014, 02:42 PM   #215
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... I loved the Lionheart and her crew - have they appeared in any novels before? Any chance we'll meet them again?
This was their first, and so far only, appearance. I liked them too
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Old October 28 2014, 12:26 AM   #216
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So to make sure that I have everything straight, the Andor Five are:
1. Julian Bashir
2. Emerson Harris
3. Ezri Dax
4. Nerathyla sh'Pash
5. Simon Tarses

Or is Thirishar ch'Thane a member?
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Old November 24 2014, 09:19 AM   #217
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Doctor Ogawa was a transporter clone.
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So to make sure that I have everything straight, the Andor Five are:
1. Julian Bashir
2. Emerson Harris
3. Ezri Dax
4. Nerathyla sh'Pash
5. Simon Tarses

Or is Thirishar ch'Thane a member?
Harris was the captain of the freighter right? The other 4 were star fleet, he wasn't so I doubt it. Serena Douglas would be a possibility - could they pin anything on her? When did this group get mentioned? Vale wouldn't have won any friends either.

I've finished the fall now, was going to move on to Disavowed but somewhere I got the impression I should finish the mirror universe saga first - so I got distracted on a real hard copy book of eugenics war part 1.

3 and 4 we're by far the best of the series - 3 gets marked down for the health impact of such high blood pressure for half the book.
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Old November 25 2014, 01:40 AM   #218
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Paul Weaver wrote: View Post
Elias Vaughn wrote: View Post
Doctor Ogawa was a transporter clone.
Enterprise1701 wrote: View Post
So to make sure that I have everything straight, the Andor Five are:
1. Julian Bashir
2. Emerson Harris
3. Ezri Dax
4. Nerathyla sh'Pash
5. Simon Tarses

Or is Thirishar ch'Thane a member?
Harris was the captain of the freighter right? The other 4 were star fleet, he wasn't so I doubt it. Serena Douglas would be a possibility - could they pin anything on her? When did this group get mentioned? Vale wouldn't have won any friends either.
Vale informed Bashir in The Poisoned Chalice of how the media were calling them the "Andor Five". Though she mentioned needing to get Dax and the others into the public eye, so I guess the late Emerson Harris wasn't one of the five.
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Old November 25 2014, 12:39 PM   #219
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Vale informed Bashir in The Poisoned Chalice of how the media were calling them the "Andor Five". Though she mentioned needing to get Dax and the others into the public eye, so I guess the late Emerson Harris wasn't one of the five.
For the record: the "Andor Five" Vale refers to is the galactic media's name for the five doctors who collaborated on the cure for the Andorian reproductive crisis in A Ceremony Of Losses - Julian Bashir, Katherine Pulaski, Elizabeth Lense, Lemdock and Tovak.
The other folks (Tarses, sh'Pash, Harris et al) were involved in the fallout from that, but not considered part of the "Five".
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Old November 29 2014, 10:31 PM   #220
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Vale informed Bashir in The Poisoned Chalice of how the media were calling them the "Andor Five". Though she mentioned needing to get Dax and the others into the public eye, so I guess the late Emerson Harris wasn't one of the five.
For the record: the "Andor Five" Vale refers to is the galactic media's name for the five doctors who collaborated on the cure for the Andorian reproductive crisis in A Ceremony Of Losses - Julian Bashir, Katherine Pulaski, Elizabeth Lense, Lemdock and Tovak.
The other folks (Tarses, sh'Pash, Harris et al) were involved in the fallout from that, but not considered part of the "Five".
Thank you, James!
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