MAN OF STEEL - Grading & Discussion

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Grade the movie...

  1. A+

    10.9%
  2. A

    20.8%
  3. A-

    18.1%
  4. B+

    9.8%
  5. B

    11.3%
  6. B-

    4.2%
  7. C+

    4.9%
  8. C

    4.9%
  9. C-

    3.8%
  10. D+

    3.4%
  11. D

    3.8%
  12. D-

    2.6%
  13. F

    1.5%
  1. davejames

    davejames Vice Admiral Admiral

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    It was in character, but a bit jarring to hear in a Superman movie, I thought.
     
  2. Locutus of Bored

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    That would make sense.

    Loved that line. That was one of the first things that really made me appreciate Adams' Lois and her "take no shit" attitude, which is perfectly in line with the best depictions of the character.
     
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  4. davejames

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    Yeah from the fairly lighthearted mood in the Planet, I got the impression at least a few weeks had passed.
     
  5. Jax

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    Just seen it and I loved it but then am a sucker for origin stories. I loved seeing more of the final days of Krypton and that whole start was the best to any comic book movie IMO. There's so much to really talk about and that will come later but I just want to say to any one having an issue with Supes killing of Zod...

    Watch Superman II he kills him in that and thats after hes no longer a threat because Zod is depowered.
     
  6. Savage Dragon

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    I loved Amy Adams. She really felt like Lois from her first moments on screen.
     
  7. Shazam!

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    That line was one of the few eye-roll moments I had. I thought they could have come up with something more original.
     
  8. Savage Dragon

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    Why? It's a pretty common phrase.
     
  9. Admiral Buzzkill

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    Well, you can't have them talking like people.
     
  10. Shazam!

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    I've never heard it used outside of movie land. It's lazy screenwriting shorthand for "look! I'm a take-no-shit female!"

    I also found it quite jarring, as though everyone had already calmed down but Lois had gone in there with the absolute intention of using this cool line she just thought up in the helicopter...

    Which is fine, I guess, but kinda strange.
     
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  11. GalaxyX

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    Well I meant it was out of character for this particular interpretation of Lois.

    I could see Margot Kidder saying it and it would be in character. I couldn't see Amy Adams' version of Lois saying a line like that.
     
  12. Dark Gilligan

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    ^^ How do you figure? Kidder's interpretation wasn't nearly as smart, tough, and together as Adams. Hell, Noel Neil's Lois was tougher than Kidder.
     
  13. Trekker4747

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    I think Kidder is my least favorite interpretation of Lois, next is Bosworth, Durance, Adams and then Hatcher. It's been way too long since I've seen the George Reeves series or the older mid-century versions of Lois Lane to place them. But, really, Kidder was the worst. It was hard to see what Superman would see in that hoarse-voiced, chain-smoking, twig.
     
  14. Dark Gilligan

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    Noel Neil kicked ass, and that was the 1950s when women weren't supposed to.
     
  15. Trekker4747

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    Was she Lois for most of the Reeves show? I think she's the one I liked the most.
     
  16. CorporalClegg

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    There was also Coats, but I don't remember ever seeing her (though I probably have). There may have been more, I don't remember.

    But I'm pretty much with you. Kidder just wasn't good at all. I'd list 'em as:

    Hatcher
    Adams
    Neil/Durance

    Kidder
    Bosworth

    Of all of them, I think they "dick measuring" line probably bets fits Durance.
     
  17. Admiral Buzzkill

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    Adams
    Hatcher
    Coates
    Neill
    ...
    uh, who?
     
  18. Trekker4747

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    Looking into Coates was Lois for the first season of Superman but then they pulled a Darren Stevens and swapped to Neill in the second season. Watching some clips on YouTube right now, Neill is who I prefer but it'd still be hard to rank Neill and Coates with the other actresses given the different interpretations of the characters between the 50s and then the 70s onward. But maybe:

    Hatcher
    Neill
    Adams
    Durance
    Coates
    Bosworth
    Kidder

    I *almost* think Durance is ranked a bit high but her version of Lois got better more toward the end of the series.

    The "dick measuring" line doesn't bother me and could probably fit any version of the character short of Hatcher (who was a bit too much of a glamor girl to use such language) keeping in mind Lois is an army brat who could hold her own in a conversation with men.
     
  19. Dark Gilligan

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    Neil was the first on-screen Lois Lane, playing her in the movie serials from 1948 to 1950. Coates played Lois on the Reeves series but left after the first season. Neil resumed playing Lois in season two and stayed through the series' end. She again played a Lane in 1978, when she appeared as Lois' mother in the Donner film. She was also the dying widow who married Lex Luthor in Superman Returns.
     
  20. Savage Dragon

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    Good point about the army brat. I'm kinda surprised we didn't see her father in this one, but that might have been trying to work in too much.