The best episode of TNG - Part Four

Discussion in 'Star Trek: The Next Generation' started by BlueStuff, Jun 30, 2011.

  1. BlueStuff

    BlueStuff Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Okay Trek fans, here's the game. The basic idea is your standard elimination game. I'll provide a list of the episodes for each season and you need to eliminate your least favorite or the one you deem the 'worst.' Please provide an EXPLANATION for why you are eliminating your choice and be sure to copy and paste the list with your choice removed. Finally, leave at least 2 eliminations before you eliminate another one. Not a very accurate way of determining the best episode, but a fun game nonetheless. Pretty simple. Enjoy!

    Winners:
    Season One - The Arsenal of Freedom
    Season Two - The Measure of a Man
    Season Three - The Best of Both Worlds (Part One)
    Season Four -

    The Best of Both Worlds (Part Two)
    Family
    Brothers
    Suddenly Human
    Remember Me
    Legacy
    Reunion
    Future Imperfect
    Final Mission
    The Loss
    Data's Day
    The Wounded
    Devil's Due
    Clues
    First Contact
    Galaxy's Child
    Night Terrors
    Identity Crisis
    The Nth Degree
    Qpid
    The Drumhead
    Half a Life
    The Host
    The Mind's Eye
    In Theory
    Redemption (Part One)
     
  2. tomalak301

    tomalak301 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    The Best of Both Worlds (Part Two)
    Family
    Brothers
    Remember Me
    Legacy
    Reunion
    Future Imperfect
    Final Mission
    The Loss
    Data's Day
    The Wounded
    Devil's Due
    Clues
    First Contact
    Galaxy's Child
    Night Terrors
    Identity Crisis
    The Nth Degree
    Qpid
    The Drumhead
    Half a Life
    The Host
    The Mind's Eye
    In Theory
    Redemption (Part One)

    Eliminating Suddenly Human. Just found this one low quality compared to the rest of the season and that loud opera noise was really really annoying.
     
  3. Satyrquaze

    Satyrquaze Vice Admiral Admiral

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    The Best of Both Worlds (Part Two)
    Family
    Brothers
    Remember Me
    Legacy
    Reunion
    Future Imperfect
    Final Mission
    Data's Day
    The Wounded
    Devil's Due
    Clues
    First Contact
    Galaxy's Child
    Night Terrors
    Identity Crisis
    The Nth Degree
    Qpid
    The Drumhead
    Half a Life
    The Host
    The Mind's Eye
    In Theory
    Redemption (Part One)

    Season 4 is to me one of the strongest seasons, but I feel "The Loss" detracts from it. Basically nothing happens while the Enterprise slowly drifts toward [technobabble]. Oh yeah, and Troi is bitchy all episode because she is as limited as everyone else. Which she demands is treated as a handicap. There would have been a great oppourtunity for LaForge to put her in her place, but it doesn't happen.
     
  4. Argus Skyhawk

    Argus Skyhawk Commodore Commodore

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    The Best of Both Worlds (Part Two)
    Family
    Brothers
    Remember Me
    Legacy
    Reunion
    Future Imperfect
    Final Mission
    Data's Day
    The Wounded
    Devil's Due
    Clues
    First Contact
    Galaxy's Child
    Night Terrors
    Identity Crisis
    The Nth Degree
    The Drumhead
    Half a Life
    The Host
    The Mind's Eye
    In Theory
    Redemption (Part One)

    I'm removing Qpid. It looks like that actors had fun making it, but it's a comic episode that is not all that funny.
     
  5. TroiFan4ever

    TroiFan4ever Commander Red Shirt

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    Removed: "Night Terrors"
    Reason: I've been hearing about how scary this episode is, so I was sucked into watching it only to be disappointed because it wasn't scary enough for me. "Phantasms" and "Genesis" were scarrier. I was about to remove "In Therory" but "In Theory" was more interesting. I just wished they came up with a better plot about the holes and stuff

    Episodes remaining:
    The Best of Both Worlds (Part Two)
    Family
    Brothers
    Remember Me
    Legacy
    Reunion
    Future Imperfect
    Final Mission
    Data's Day
    The Wounded
    Devil's Due
    Clues
    First Contact
    Galaxy's Child
    Identity Crisis
    The Nth Degree
    The Drumhead
    Half a Life
    The Host
    The Mind's Eye
    In Theory
    Redemption (Part One)
     
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  6. Harvey

    Harvey Admiral Admiral

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    Episodes remaining:
    The Best of Both Worlds (Part Two)
    Family
    Brothers
    Remember Me
    Reunion
    Future Imperfect
    Final Mission
    Data's Day
    The Wounded
    Devil's Due
    Clues
    First Contact
    Galaxy's Child
    Identity Crisis
    The Nth Degree
    The Drumhead
    Half a Life
    The Host
    The Mind's Eye
    In Theory
    Redemption (Part One)

    Eliminated: "Legacy." This episode pointlessly introduces the sister of the (at this point) dead Tasha Yar. It's a rather unremarkable episode in a mostly terrific season.
     
  7. Geck

    Geck Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    The Best of Both Worlds (Part Two)
    Family
    Brothers
    Remember Me
    Reunion
    Future Imperfect
    Final Mission
    Data's Day
    The Wounded
    Clues
    First Contact
    Galaxy's Child
    Identity Crisis
    The Nth Degree
    The Drumhead
    Half a Life
    The Host
    The Mind's Eye
    In Theory
    Redemption (Part One)

    Taking out the dreadful Devil's Due - it's not terribly interesting, fails to be either funny or suspenseful, and I don't like the guest star who played Ardra.
     
  8. Pseudo

    Pseudo Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    The Best of Both Worlds (Part Two)
    Family
    Brothers
    Reunion
    Future Imperfect
    Final Mission
    Data's Day
    The Wounded
    Clues
    First Contact
    Galaxy's Child
    Identity Crisis
    The Nth Degree
    The Drumhead
    Half a Life
    The Host
    The Mind's Eye
    In Theory
    Redemption (Part One)

    Goodbye Remember Me, the irony of title is probably the best thing about this utterly forgettable instalment.
     
  9. Saturn0660

    Saturn0660 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    The Best of Both Worlds (Part Two)
    Family
    Brothers
    Reunion
    Future Imperfect
    Final Mission
    Data's Day
    The Wounded
    Clues
    Galaxy's Child
    Identity Crisis
    The Nth Degree
    The Drumhead
    Half a Life
    The Host
    The Mind's Eye
    In Theory
    Redemption (Part One)

    First Contact:Because the first officer of the flagship would never be on this kind of mission.
     
  10. Spork111

    Spork111 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    The Best of Both Worlds (Part Two)
    Family
    Brothers
    Reunion
    Future Imperfect
    Final Mission
    Data's Day
    The Wounded
    Clues
    Galaxy's Child
    Identity Crisis
    The Nth Degree
    The Drumhead
    Half a Life
    The Mind's Eye
    In Theory
    Redemption (Part One)

    Getting rid of "The Host" - I just find the Crusher love story to be rather adolescent in its presentation (with Crusher and Odan making out at every opportunity - barf). Additionally, Crusher's reaction to the final (female) host of Odan is perhaps understandable, but still remarkably non-progressive in its message (at least for TNG).
     
  11. Tiberius

    Tiberius Commodore Commodore

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    I'm kicking out Clues.

    Not enough depended on finding the solution. And why the hell didn't Data just say everyone was out for longer? IIRC, the only tip off was that Data was saying it was 30 seconds when it was really 24 hours. If he'd said they were out for 24 hours, any investigation would match up and there wouldn't have been a problem.

    The Best of Both Worlds (Part Two)
    Family
    Brothers
    Reunion
    Future Imperfect
    Final Mission
    Data's Day
    The Wounded
    Galaxy's Child
    Identity Crisis
    The Nth Degree
    The Drumhead
    Half a Life
    The Mind's Eye
    In Theory
    Redemption (Part One)
     
  12. AviTrek

    AviTrek Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    The Best of Both Worlds (Part Two)
    Family
    Brothers
    Reunion
    Future Imperfect
    Final Mission
    Data's Day
    The Wounded
    Galaxy's Child
    Identity Crisis
    The Nth Degree
    The Drumhead
    Half a Life
    The Mind's Eye
    Redemption (Part One)

    Removing In Theory
     
  13. Supernuke

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    Wow!!! A lot of the best episodes have been kicked out early IMO. I'm going to remove Final Mission because it's a Wesley episode.


    The Best of Both Worlds (Part Two)
    Family
    Brothers
    Reunion
    Future Imperfect
    Data's Day
    The Wounded
    Galaxy's Child
    Identity Crisis
    The Nth Degree
    The Drumhead
    Half a Life
    The Mind's Eye
    Redemption (Part One)
     
  14. Geck

    Geck Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Agreed - I'm especially sad to see First Contact out! It's probably one of my top 3 TNG episodes.
     
  15. Argus Skyhawk

    Argus Skyhawk Commodore Commodore

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    The game rules say you need to give at least a short explanation.
     
  16. tomalak301

    tomalak301 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I think the removal of "Remember Me" and calling it "Forgettable" was the most surprising thing. That's really the first time I've seen that word used to describe this episode.
     
  17. Eddie Roth

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    Agreed with those who question the early elimination of First Contact. An excellent episode. Oh well... I'll kick out Galaxy's Child as a companion piece to my Season 3 elimination of Booby Trap. Either I don't get Geordi's fascination with Leah Brahms, or I don't like Geordi episodes all that much or it was just a technobabble-y bore... take your pick.


    The Best of Both Worlds (Part Two)
    Family
    Brothers
    Reunion
    Future Imperfect
    Data's Day
    The Wounded
    Identity Crisis
    The Nth Degree
    The Drumhead
    Half a Life
    The Mind's Eye
    Redemption (Part One)
     
  18. Pseudo

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    The Best of Both Worlds (Part Two)
    Family
    Brothers
    Reunion
    Future Imperfect
    Data's Day
    The Wounded
    Identity Crisis
    The Nth Degree
    The Drumhead
    The Mind's Eye
    Redemption (Part One)

    Half a Life is gone, Logan's Run did it better.
     
  19. Geck

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    The Best of Both Worlds (Part Two)
    Family
    Brothers
    Reunion
    Data's Day
    The Wounded
    Identity Crisis
    The Nth Degree
    The Drumhead
    The Mind's Eye
    Redemption (Part One)

    I'll take out Future Imperfect. It's ok, but the set and costume changes are more interesting than the story itself.
     
  20. AviTrek

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    Because I didn't like the episode :p