Re: TOS Enterprise Interiors -- Unreal 3 Engine As a kid watching the reruns in the early to mid 70s, that's what I assumed. Of course, there's a thousand different ways it could be interpreted. But i suspect a fair number of viewers made similar conclusions. Sincerely, Bill
Re: TOS Enterprise Interiors -- Unreal 3 Engine As a first time viewer, I almost thought I saw windows present in the upper part of those angled panels. There's certainly some complex overlapping going on. I hadn't thought about the "perfect A-frame" though - an interesting notion! Perhaps it would also explain why everyone's cabin has similarly slanting walls?
Re: TOS Enterprise Interiors -- Unreal 3 Engine Judging by the massive look of the beams and the wall angle I'm confident that Matt Jefferies envisioned this set to be mostly located at the outer hull. However, during the series my overall impression is that it is more often adjacent to the inner corridor because of many scenes were the transporter room corridor extends beyond the angled beams and you see personnel passing by behind the angled wall of this set. And in "The Way to Eden" Adam actually disapeared behind the beam on the left side of the room, and I'm sure he didn't do a space walk (space song, yes). I just checked with the 1966 briefing room construction blueprint and a question popped up: Shouldn't all ceiling beams be parallel to the floor of the room? Bob
Re: TOS Enterprise Interiors -- Unreal 3 Engine They are all parallel. I think an optical illusion is making it look like the farthest one may not be, but rest assured, it is Also, I agree with Robert Comsol about what Jefferies intended versus what we see in the series. I'm going to go with the impression we're given in the series.
Re: TOS Enterprise Interiors -- Unreal 3 Engine Here's a shot showing the view screen wall we saw in Space Seed (and The Menagerie's courtroom scenes). I've also got the table in there (library computer terminal and tri-viewer coming soon). Please note that the table's orientation and position is not final. The viewscreen itself is canon, but the walls surrounding it are a little different than what we saw in Space Seed. I've made it a bit more symmetrical, and had to adjust it's length due to the season 2/3 version of the briefing room being 2 feet longer. I believe the viewscreen was modified and moved to the Auxiliary Control Room set beginning at season 2, so, as far as I know, we don't see this wall as part of the briefing room past season 1 (unless anyone knows otherwise). [edit] Just noticed that the screenshot function of the game engine did not pick up the reflection I added to the table. Bah!
Re: TOS Enterprise Interiors -- Unreal 3 Engine what you are doing is good ok, now i have a big question for you then?, did you ever think of trying to put all of the videos together as one video page. if you did not think of this. i am going to talk my time from the star trek role playing game plans and turn them into a full ship of all of the becks. after i put what i got i will take them to a place in sacramento to a place where they do blue print, i am going to get them bigger to this size of 3' wide X 6' long and put them together as one sheet. i just wonder of you ever try to do this of your project.
Re: TOS Enterprise Interiors -- Unreal 3 Engine One video page? I've got grander ideas in mind, sir. This is (at the very least) going to be publicly released as a playable walk through of the Enterprise. Those that download will be able to walk through the portions of the Enterprise I'm creating, in real-time.
Re: TOS Enterprise Interiors -- Unreal 3 Engine How would you handle traveling from deck to deck in the turbolifts? Does the Unreal 3 Engine allow you to select different levels from a particular transit point, or will you be relying on ladders and Jefferies Tubes for cross-ship travel?
Re: TOS Enterprise Interiors -- Unreal 3 Engine Unreal 3 has level streaming capabilities, so it can seamlessly load different levels without the player being aware at all. I could load these levels from turbolift cars via scripting. The jefferies tube is a possibility, but would require a tad more headache. Either way, I haven't exactly worked out any details yet, and will cross that bridge when I get there.
Re: TOS Enterprise Interiors -- Unreal 3 Engine Thanks for the clarification, I was wondering for a split-second. Yes. I'm just curious: Do you already know when you are moving the viewscreen to the Auxiliary Control Room? I've heard some wild rumors that some other Trek BBS members are trying to decipher the layout of the Auxiliary Control Room. Is there a possibility you guys can share what you have deciphered thus far. I think it would be really great if synergy potential were fully exploited. Bob
Re: TOS Enterprise Interiors -- Unreal 3 Engine For what it's worth; here is my Auxiliary Control Room article; but it's mostly about the actual physical set. http://tosgraphics.yuku.com/topic/418/The-Auxiliary-Control-Room
Re: TOS Enterprise Interiors -- Unreal 3 Engine @Robert Comsol: I'll be doing Auxiliary Control sometime later, after main engineering, I suppose. @feek61: Great article!
Re: TOS Enterprise Interiors -- Unreal 3 Engine (noticed you already got a comment from him) The interesting question remains how "in-universe" the port side of the Auxiliary Control Room should look like (or vice versa the starboard side of "life support control"). Bob
Re: TOS Enterprise Interiors -- Unreal 3 Engine I think the port side is basically a mirror image of the other side of the area adjacent to the view screen with the the console and status board. If you are controlling the entire ship from this location it seems that more controls would be there.
Re: TOS Enterprise Interiors -- Unreal 3 Engine There's also the Jefferies Set Model about halfway down the page. Aux control is there next to the bridge.
Re: TOS Enterprise Interiors -- Unreal 3 Engine Ok, now, mister ! Now, you HAVE to complete the entire interior of the ship, slap it onto an awesome exterior model to scale, and sell that on BluRay so we can navigate around and through the ship and operate the consoles. I'd buy that.
Re: TOS Enterprise Interiors -- Unreal 3 Engine In fact, I think it's the bridge viewscreen from The Cage.