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Old October 6 2014, 10:08 PM   #31
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Re: Let's Listen to Star Trek: Season Two!

“Riddled”? Seriously? I think I know of one cue that might be missing (an alternate from Conscience of the King that was used in Miri). I’m sure there is one person out there who bought this box for that one cue but there aren’t two.

It didn’t have a hefty price because it was complete or not. It has a hefty price because it’s fifteen CDs long!

I not saying that the LLL gang is beyond reproach or anything, but they did a hell of a job on a set that I still can’t believe even exists. “Inexcusable” is very over the top.

As for Cushman I’d believe a lot more of his bolder claims if he didn’t blow it on the facts that are more straightforward.

In comparison, I’ve got two jobs for you: First, I’ve got a room full of tapes. There is a 30 second cue. It might be in one of these tapes. Might not. Find and catalog it.

Second, I want you to write about a few sentences about a single episode. Here’s a book about the music from that episode. It’s indexed.

I have a guess at which one is harder.
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Old October 7 2014, 03:54 AM   #32
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Re: Let's Listen to Star Trek: Season Two!

Maybe the guy who thinks the LLL box is riddled with missing cues just doesn't understand how the set is organized. One facile example: if you're expecting to find Kirk's "One man with a vision" cue in "Mirror, Mirror," you're not going to find it there. And that happens a lot. But the library cues are there.

Alternatively, I wonder if he has an illegal download that was not complete.
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Old October 7 2014, 07:17 AM   #33
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Re: Let's Listen to Star Trek: Season Two!

I listen to the complete TOS soundtrack collection daily. My favorite soundtracks by far are for Enemy Within, Amok Time, Doomsday Machine, I Mudd and Metamorphosis. Metamorphosis being my favorite of Season 2. It's so beautiful and romantic.

EDIT: And a track from Trouble with tribbles that breaks into a short piano solo. It's very lovely and atmospheric.
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Old December 26 2014, 03:39 PM   #34
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Well, here we are at the tail end of season 2! Today we’re doing Steiner’s By Any Other Name and a Charlie X library cue. On Monday (12/29) we’ll do Return to Tomorrow and Patterns of Force. (All six and half minutes of it!)

Give me a moment while I listen to the second season main titles…

I suppose I could go back and watch the episode first (sometimes handy on these partial episodes). But I’m not going to.

Ahhh, that sweet Steiner sound. Someone mentioned that they use Neutralizer for their notification sound on their phone. Not a bad idea that.

The first few acts of this episode are actually rather dire. What most people seem to remember are the wacky hijinks at the end of it. I know it’s a partial episode but Scotty’s “bagpipe” music was so integral to the score that it almost seems like a shame to not include it. But I’m not going to.

I’m pretty sure Steiner could have written an entire episode of nothing but stings.

This is great music, to be sure. But it doesn’t quite have the “hooks” of a Balance of Terror or Mudd’s Women.

Pretty Words: Hey! What’s What are Little Girls Made of doing in here? Get back to work, Fred! Given the many examples of Star Trek “Ooh la la” music, this is fairly understated.

Short Playoff is another track that I’ll always associate with The Ultimate Computer. There’s probably a few of them.

Thematic Playoff: Now there’s a fine statement of the Fanfare.

I like Steiner’s library stuff. He was quite good at it. Hey, speaking of The Ultimate Computer, there’s Doctor Daystrom losing his mind to Goodbye Charlie!

See you Monday!
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Old December 27 2014, 12:52 AM   #35
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Kinda funny that Neil is complaining about errors when the LALA Land soundtrack is riddled with missing cues which is in my opinion inexecusable! LOL The music is just not all there... and that's fine except for the fact that it was marketed as being complete and at a hefty price. Yes, I'm still upset about that a few years after the release.

We never heard back as to exactly what this poster thinks is missing.

I'm pretty sure you can find everything if you know where to look, apart from Riley singing "I'll Take You Home, Kathleen" and Uhura singing in "The Changeling."
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Old December 27 2014, 03:35 AM   #36
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Re: Let's Listen to Star Trek: Season Two!

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Kinda funny that Neil is complaining about errors when the LALA Land soundtrack is riddled with missing cues which is in my opinion inexecusable! LOL The music is just not all there... and that's fine except for the fact that it was marketed as being complete and at a hefty price. Yes, I'm still upset about that a few years after the release.

We never heard back as to exactly what this poster thinks is missing.

I'm pretty sure you can find everything if you know where to look, apart from Riley singing "I'll Take You Home, Kathleen" and Uhura singing in "The Changeling."
Ha! No kidding!

I think there might be a cue from Miri that is not in there. And it is an alternate of a cue that is on the box. I can tell you I certainly did not find this on my own. I think it was pointed out in another thread here.

Even without this little project of mine I still listen to this at least once a week. Even two years (!) on.
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Old December 31 2014, 03:58 AM   #37
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Ah, maybe not MONDAY as such... I guess everybody is busy this time of year.

Ok, the end of Season 2! (The next new Star Trek score will be Spectre of the Gun on July 25th, 1968.)

We open with The Voice. Definitely that George Duning sound. Jumping ahead 25 years, it sounds a bit like A Christmas Hug from Generations.

I run a little hot and cold on Duning. On the one hand his work is lovely. On the other hand it can seem to drone on a bit. (I may have said this before...) And I’ve never been much of a fan of his organ music. (Is that an organ?) This will reach its peak with The Empath.

The other Star Trek work that seems a little Duning-esque would be The Voyage Home.

It would have been interesting to see what Duning might have done with a Doomsday Machine or a Friday’s Child. His action bits on Star Trek are interesting but somewhat spread apart. He didn’t get any “ACTION” type episodes. Jumping ahead, his most different sounding episode, “And the Children Shall Lead”, was also the most different plot that he received. I know they generally picked him for the Big Emotion episodes.

Ahhhh, Kirk’s Philosophy. A huge reason I wanted the BOX was this one single track. Excuse me while I play it again. Thanks. I wonder what kind of take Duning could have given the main Star Trek theme. (Which no one but Mulendore ever tried until the movies.)

Nice choice to use the “Black Fleet” music for Henoch. Interesting that he’d use Steiner’s theme rather than tracking it from another episode. It sounds even better here than it did in Captain America.

Duning does good fanfare. The last of Last Moments is rousing.

Well, there has to be a last something of everything. And as far as last things go, this is a good one.

BUT WAIT! THERE’S MORE!

*Plays 6 1/2 minutes of Military Mite* City on the Edge of Forever it is not.

Looking forward to hearing what everyone else has to say. And after that I’ll be back in this thread next summer.
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