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Old April 5 2014, 09:20 PM   #31
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Re: that pesky Ops turbolift

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But that already defies the idea that Bajorans would categorically have been slaves, and it especially contradicts the exact claim made earlier, namely all Bajorans aboard Terok Nor being slaves.
Then how do you explain "Civil Defense"?
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Old April 5 2014, 09:34 PM   #32
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^That topic needs it's own thread. What I took from it, the Bajoran foolishly trusted the Cardassians and signed documents letting Cardassia occupy them (for what ever reason). The Federation had their hands tied because it was all legal. Though they basically treated them like slaves, they technically weren't.
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Old April 5 2014, 10:08 PM   #33
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Then how do you explain "Civil Defense"?
"Civil Defense" refers to Bajoran slaves aboard Terok Nor. "Necessary Evil" flashbacks us to Bajoran non-slaves aboard Terok Nor. Why should there be a need for an explanation? There is no contradiction there.

Some Bajorans were slaves, others were free. Some were resistance fighters, some were collaborators. All Bajorans were in theory subjugated and downtrodden, but that doesn't make them slaves.

Except in a very figurative sense, but if one tried to argue that a wife being mistreated by his husband is a "slave", or that a worker being left unpaid for months is, this would only confuse the situation. Slavery is a very specific condition (although it comes in many varieties), and even the Gallitep mine victims probably wouldn't be slaves by the strictest definition. The big point here is that not all Bajorans were at Gallitep, and there were Bajorans at Terok Nor who lived a life not just literally but figuratively hundreds of miles above Gallitep. Without being the personal pets of powerful Cardassians, that is.

(Does this become on-topic if we start debating whether free Bajorans had turbolift access to Ops? )

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