What if Tuvix had survived?

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  1. wildsulu

    wildsulu Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    those lines and your interpretation,

    You're not making it up, are you? Disturbing!!! :)

    PS. what is "Tieran-Kes"?!
     
  2. teacake

    teacake Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I don't like the way Tuvix talked to the captain. He was very forward. Presumptuous, even.

    He deserved to die.
     
  3. SPCTRE

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    Finally, a Tuvix thread!

     
  4. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    In the episode Warlord, the conciousness (call him a space ghost why not?) of an old despot named Tieran had been jumping consciousnesses for hundreds of years staying one step ahead of his enemies, until his mind transferred into the driving seat of young Kes' firm little body, and he had the mental powers of an angry god, which is exactly how he used them.

    Warlord is almost the Kes episode.
     
  5. teacake

    teacake Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    What if Tuvok and Tuvix BOTH went into pon farr at the same time and they declared kal-if-fee on each other?

    Remember when Shran and Archer had that fight to the death and Archer won through trickery even though it was fighting with an Andorian weapon and he's a terrible fighter and should have died instantly?

    Boy I sure love those manufactured fight to the death of friends scenarios. Can't have enough of 'em! MORE MORE!!
     
  6. teacake

    teacake Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    It's certainly my the Kes episode. As in, only.
     
  7. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Before and After is mine.

    Jennifer may look fascinating in that bubble gum tight leather lovesock, but it's not Kes up stairs in Warlord, so it's not a Kes episode, it's the #### who hijacked her body's episode.
     
  8. SPCTRE

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    Better yet, what if they declared Khaleesi?

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  9. hux

    hux Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Nothing is gone or lost if you separate him either. As far as Tuvix wanting to live is concerned that could just be a small part of Neelix wanting to continue as Tuvix but not necessarily both of them (no way to know) so his "opinion" can't be totally accepted as proof of sentience

    Did someone say sentience. I feel a poll coming on

    Dude, it's alright, she can't hurt you anymore

    Just before transport took place, she should have turned her back on him and said...."this is for Tuvok, you whore!"....then punched him in the face

    Then laughed

    Then said....."separate that fucking freak!"
     
  10. SPCTRE

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    Is The Kes a re-booted version of Kes?
     
  11. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Well, Fury was certainly the de-booted version.
     
  12. borgboy

    borgboy Commodore Commodore

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    That was awesome.
    Yeah, I always thought Tuvok secretly wanted Kes.
    It is a little interesting how Tuvik admitted that he loved both Kes and Tuvok's wife too. I guess that makes him polyamorous. You could tell that didn't go down with Kes well, although she was generally appalled by the whole thing.
    Before and After is my favorite Kes episode, but I pretty much like every Kes episode - except the abomination that is Fury. Even Elogum.
     
  13. Kobayshi Maru

    Kobayshi Maru Commodore Commodore

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    Would have? She did.
     
  14. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    When she left is as important that she left.

    Imagine if Kes had stayed for another three episodes, what would the consequences of that have been?

    (Day of Honor, Nemesis and Revulsion.)
     
  15. hux

    hux Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Dunno :shrug:

    Maybe if she'd been around for Nemesis, she could have sensed Mad Max beyond Thunderdome
     
  16. Melakon

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    Or an adulterer.
     
  17. Kilana2

    Kilana2 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Kes tried desperately to be polite to Tuvix, but wanted Neelix back. As to Neelix, some might say "Good Riddance". But would Tuvix be the better alternative to Neelix? At least I liked the interaction between Tuvok "Mr. Vulcan" and Neelix, so in the end I was glad to have them both back as was the rest of the Voyager crew.
     
  18. Kobayshi Maru

    Kobayshi Maru Commodore Commodore

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    What I find puzzling is that Kes' said several times that jealousy was incomprehensible to Ocampas because they mate for life (which given how long that is, is not much of a constraint) and what does she do only a few episodes later, she dumps Neelix!
     
  19. Kilana2

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    You don´t want to know about Mirror Universe Kes. If you do, David Mack´s Rise Like Lion is the hell of a read :devil:.

    As to Neelix, he later found Dexa. :luvlove:
     
  20. Kobayshi Maru

    Kobayshi Maru Commodore Commodore

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    The point is that that line about "mating for life" makes absolutely no sense in retrospect.