It's been more than a year now since the last thread, but now that we're fully in the post-Destiny era, it seemed like a good time. Although I know someone posted these questions in another similar thread a few months ago and there were no bites. Some of the questions have some overlap, but feel free to delete the repeaters for you. 1. How do you feel the Trek book line has done in the last 12-15 months? 2. What specifically have you liked in regards to the entire Trek book line in that time? 3. And what specifically have you disliked in regards to the Trek book line of the last year or so? 4. Were there any trends or recurring themes emergent in the last 12 months or so that you liked? 5. What trends or recurring themes evident in the last year did you dislike and why? 6. What changes or additions to the Trek book line have you liked editorial-wise (i.e. ebook mini-series, focus on one series over another)? 7. What editorial decisions from the last 12-15 months have you not liked? 8. What changes would you like to see in the Trek book line? Be it production choices or story editorial decisions? Enjoy!
Mhh, TNG episodes and character driven that's a connection I don't really see on the larger scale. Granted, there were some (very) good character centered episodes, but as a whole I think TNG was a bit stale when it came to character development.
1. How do you feel the Trek book line has done in the last 12-15 months? They've done good. 2. What specifically have you liked in regards to the entire Trek book line in that time? Pretty much all of it. They're good books and now they tie together it makes it feel like parts of an expanded story. 3. And what specifically have you disliked in regards to the Trek book line of the last year or so? All this bitching about insignificant points, and the militant Janeway fans who seem to think that if Janeway's gone Picard's gonna pull his hair out or something... 4. Were there any trends or recurring themes emergent in the last 12 months or so that you liked? I liked the theme of hope and strength over adversity. It also like the fact that crews are becoming a bit more intermingled and there are more crossovers. 5. What trends or recurring themes evident in the last year did you dislike and why? I was going to say too much Borg, but thinking all the borg-stories worked for me so no I'm pretty content. 6. What changes or additions to the Trek book line have you liked editorial-wise (i.e. ebook mini-series, focus on one series over another)? I'd have liked abit more Voyager/New Frontier/Deep Space Nine participation in Destiny, but it's not crucial. 7. What editorial decisions from the last 12-15 months have you not liked? Dunno I haven't talked to any editors... 8. What changes would you like to see in the Trek book line? Be it production choices or story editorial decisions? New font for the Voyager Titles, it's getting abit old now.
Let's see in order to answer these I needed to be reminded of what was published over the last year and then compare with what I actually read. So I went and compiled a list of the new stuff beginning in January 2008 through April 2009. (With a little asterisk * by what I've read) 2008: Excelsior: Forged in Fire Slings and Arrows book 4: The Sleep of Death Klingon Empire: A Burning House Slings and Arrows book 5: A Weary Life Vulcan's Soul book 3: Epiphany Slings and Arrows book 6: Enterprises of Great Pitch and Moment *Terok Nor: Day of the Vipers *Terok Nor: Night of the Wolves *Terok Nor: Dawn of the Eagles *Myriad Universes: Infinities Prism *DS9: Fearful Symmetry *Myriad Universes: Echoes and Refractions *TNG: Greater than the Sum *ENT: Kobayashi Maru *Destiny book 1: Gods of Night *Destiny book 2: Mere Mortals *Destiny book 3: Lost Souls 2009: Mirror Universe: Shards and Shadows Errand of Fury book 3: Sacrifices of War *A Singular Destiny *Titan: Over a Torrent Sea *Voyager: Full Circle New Frontier: Treason 1. How do you feel the Trek book line has done in the last 12-15 months? I think its done fine. Obviously lots of things are changing both inside the Trek universe as well as out (most notably Marco's dismissal). For me I never have been the "ready everything with Star Trek on it" kind but as time goes on I am finding I am more and more liking and venturing into other series and books that sound good. So this is a good thing. That said, however, at the beginning of 2008 I was very much considering giving up on the Post Nemesis TNG books because I didn't think any of the four (at the time) were really all that good. I only stuck around because of Destiny and the fact that David Mack was writing it. 2. What specifically have you liked in regards to the entire Trek book line in that time? I liked most over the past year: the Myriad and Mirror Universe books. I have also very much liked the heavy continuity and interconnectivity of the line. 3. And what specifically have you disliked in regards to the Trek book line of the last year or so? Ironically, as much as I like the continuity and connectedness of the books. I also have to say I think we've gone just a bit too far with it. I think there has been a setting up for too much to remember and too much to have to recall for an author to write a book that isn't 25% back story of events from other books. Not to mention the considerably higher likelihood of continuity errors. 4. Were there any trends or recurring themes emergent in the last 12 months or so that you liked? I like the complex characters being created and developed and also the epic story telling but... 5. What trends or recurring themes evident in the last year did you dislike and why? I kinda agree with CommanderTroi that the epic story telling seems to be all big wars and conflict that deals with and ends in massive amounts of death. While I'm not anti-war stories, in fact I like war stories. I'd rather those stories not have the war begin and end all in one book or duology or trilogy of books. War should take a while, there should be down time for planning and strategizing. Characters should grow and have to face more than the death of a loved one. This is something I think DS9 handled very will with the Dominion War. It took years, every episode wasn't massive death and battles and explosions. We got both sides of the war's POV we were able in some cases to sympathize with the "bad guys" we met some on the "bad guys" side that thought the war was wrong etc. Not saying the books need to give exactly those stories, but that a variety similar to that would be nice. 6. What changes or additions to the Trek book line have you liked editorial-wise (i.e. ebook mini-series, focus on one series over another)? Over the past year, nothing specific. But foreshadowing the future the Typhon Pact looks quite promising. If implications here are to be believed this won't be war so the intriguing stories that come out of that could be good. 7. What editorial decisions from the last 12-15 months have you not liked? Several actually. (Spoilers occur here!!) 1. TNG - doesn't seem to have a direction, still. I'm hoping Losing the Peace will remedy this and keep me reading this series. 2. DS9 - The Ascendant portion of this seems to be dragging in favor of the MU line. While I like the MU stuff, the Ascendant stuff was here first and I'd like that wrapped up or at least advanced in tandem. 3. VOY - Not a fan of Janeway's death at all. Not a fan of the new Delta Quadrant mission. Not a fan of what appears to have happened with Seven after the Borg are no longer. I'm hoping Unworthy will allay these fears. 4. TTN - I think they went back out to explore WAY too soon after the devastation of the Borg attacks. I also think it was illogical to send them out without a slipstream drive, since apparently according to Voyager it's reliable enough and quick enough to install to send a fleet of ships to an even further away point in the galaxy. Fortunately, however, it seems even though I don't like the decisions, I'm still going to be able to enjoy what has come of them because I loved Full Circle and it had a lot of decisions I wouldn't have gone with myself but since they've been made seem to be working out to tell those good stories we keep hearing about. 8. What changes would you like to see in the Trek book line? Be it production choices or story editorial decisions? Being completely selfish (and unrealistic)... I want no more NF books on the schedule ever, no more TOS books, and a faster release schedule for Voyager, Vanguard, DS9, and the odd MyU and MU. But realistically, I'd like (much like we have this year) to continue a reasonably balanced schedule for the release of books for all of the various series out there.
But the Voyager fleet is still something of a testbed for slipstream, and Starfleet has limited resources for retrofitting its ships since it has so much else to do in the way of rebuilding. As I explained it in OaTS, part of Titan's mission out there is to pave the way for future slipstream vessels, to be sort of an advance scout so the later slipstream ships aren't racing willy-nilly into the totally unknown. Also, my personal conjecture -- and this is purely my own thought, inspired by the design sketch for the Aventine -- is that Titan might simply be too wide for slipstream. We've seen that a slipstream conduit is a kind of tunnel, and that it's difficult to keep it stable. I figure the bigger (i.e. wider) the tunnel, the harder it is to stabilize. So the wider the ship is, the less suitable it is for slipstream upgrade. The Aventine's very slim, speedboat-like profile seems tailor-made for "threading the needle," and Voyager is relatively slim as well. And the other ships in the Delta Quadrant fleet, I believe, are smaller than Voyager. But Titan's about 74 meters wider than Voyager, so it might simply be too broad to fit into a stable slipstream tunnel. Upgrading the "fatter" ships may have to wait until the next breakthrough in the technology. But again, that's entirely my own speculation.
^ Hmm, that kinda makes sense, the more streamlined a ship is the easier to navigate slipstream space
*random thought on interbook continuity* This has always struck me as likely because of the speed of subspace communications. It's not instant, of course, but there's no reason Picard can't keep up with Riker's adventures and vice versa.
I imagine he would; even if he didn't have a history with three of the most senior officers, Titan and her sister ships are out there doing exactly what Picard joined Starfleet to do: explore, push boundaries, discover knew things. Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
I agree that Titan being sent back out to explore is a bit difficult to swallow given the circumstances... but I'll gladly swallow it, since I'd much rather have Titan exploration stories than reconstruction ones.
Very good. While there have been a couple stories I didn't like, over the very good have very much outnumbered the not as good. I'm very glad the books have continued to both move forward, and at the same time explore the new and old elements of the franchise. Nothing really. I like that they have continued treated the new series equally to the TV based series. None really. Myriad Universes. None again. I guess I'm easy to please. Since they now seem to be spreading the focus between the series more I'm pretty happy. Here's what I mean: April 2009-Dec. 2010: TOS: 5 (ST09, Troublesome Minds, one TBA, one reprint, The Unspoken Truth) TNG: 1 announced so far (Losing the Peace) DS9: 2 announced so far (The Soul Key, The Never Ending Sacrifice) Voy: 2 anounced so far (Full Circle, Unworthy) NF: 1 announced so far (Treason) Ent: 1 announced so far (The Romulan War) COE:1 announced so far (Out of the Cocoon) TTN:1 announced so far (Synthesis) Van:1 announced so far ( Precipce) MyrU: 1 announced so far (Shattered Light) MU: 1 announced so far (The Sorrows of Empire) Mixed: 1 announced so far ( Seven Deadly Sins) Ok, so it's more TOS focused than I thought, but it's still got at least one book for each series, which is better than some years. And there are 5 months still open.
FWIW, Losing the Peace does briefly touch on this point, and hopefully makes swallowing a little easier...
1. After seeing the list of what actually came out in '08 I can't really comment about the last year as I've not gotten into DS9 yet (have a lot of the books waiting for me when I finish the last season of DS9) and I was busy with some non-trek book buying to get some of the larger Trek books that came out. However in general I've been more than pleased with the recent Trek books. 2. I like how connected Starfleet seems now. Just think about how close we are on this one little planet with just the internet, now think about subspace and ftl communication, it makes sense that most of Starfleet has at least a brief familiarity with each other, even if its only the Federation equivalent of a MySpace friend. I also have really liked the good quality of writing I've been able to see, especially in series with multiple authors. Titan definately springs to mind in this regard, while I've liked some more than others, they've all been really good. 3. Jaza being stuck on some alien world in the past. Only one Klingon Empire book so far. Vanguard's not coming out often enough. In fact my biggest problem is probably that it just seems like the wait time between books is too long. I know that that's completely ridiculous, but I got spoiled when I first got into the Trek books and would go and get all the current books in the series that had been out for awhile and just tear through them really fast. Now that I'm mostly caught up it I'm just now dealing with what everyone else has been used to. 4. Family and forgiveness seems to be the really big themes of the last couple of books. From Riker and Troi and Picard and Beverely deciding to have kids, to Sonek Pran in A Singular Destiny, family seems to be a big part of Trek now. And then we have Picard and Worf both seeking for forgiveness or finally forgiving themselves in TNG, Riker and Troi finally forgiving each other, the forgiveness of the Borg, just seems to be a lot of forgiveness going on. And seeing as these two themes seem to be becoming important in my life recently, I'm glad to see them in the books I'm reading too. 5. I agree that the war and epic struggles seem to have been dominant recently, but I think that we may be moving away from that and more into how to form an uneasy peace with hostile neighbors. Sort of like the way things were back in 23rd century when Trek had metaphors for the Cold War. Except now it'll be metaphors for the situation we're facing right now in the real world. Which is something I've always liked about Trek, which if that's the case, not really a big problem for me. 6. I like how balanced this year's books seem to be in the series distribution. Course it's causing hell with my bank account, but somethings just can't be helped. 7. Haven't really had a problem. 8. I want a Captain Sulu series, Ezri and the Aventine series, and for the writers to be forced to obey my every whim and give me credit for their books. But I'd be happy with only two out of those three. Oh and a Romulan civil war, if only for all the intrigue and it might get my little brother reading again.
Overall better than ever. Forged in Fire, Terok Nor, Myriad Universes, Destiny, I can't remember a year with so many good books. As an Alternate-History-fan, my favourite was the start (of hopefully many more to come) Myriad Universes. The only really disappointment for me was ENTs Kobayashi Maru. I know, at least Andy posts here on occasion, so just in case you read this (And don't get it personally): Comparing last years "Forged in fire" and "Kobayashi Maru", it's hard to believe that these two books are from the same authors. The first one is a masterpiece, brilliant, exciting, sometimes I had to force myself to put the book down. Easily your best book since "The Sundered", on eof my All-Time-favourites. On the other hand we have "Kobayashi Maru", which reads like it was written by a trainee fresh from highschool. No smooth story-flow, rather a bumping from one corner to the next, story-twist on the edge of illogic, dull characters and event he action-scenes where almost putting me to sleep. So my vote here goes clear to more Sulu/TOS/TLE-books from you two, but perhaps you should leave ENT to someone else. The Big TNG-TTN-VOY-DS9-continuity, culminating in Destiny. An interesting experiment, with encouraging results. I'm really looking forward to the Typhon Pact-series. 2 Trek-book-related things: 1. The fallout of Marcos layoff, especially the cancel of the Crucible-hardback-omnibus and the delay of Myriad Universes III. 2. The endless "Oh my god, they killed Janeway!"-cant. Come on, kids, grow up, it's just a book with a fictional character and some here are acting like they're on the edge of starting a holy war against PB..... Enjoy "Places of Exile" and "Full Circle", the two best Voager-storys ever written, wait until "Unworthy" comes out and then let's see, how Voyager is doing without Janeway. If it turns out to be a catastrophe, then you can start to complain and demand that lady Q brings Janeway back. But until than, the entire discussion is childish and ridiculous. I liked the very balanced schedule, we got something from each series. of course, the 24th century dominated, but there was still at least a bit for everyone, regardless which series you prefer. As I already said, ENT is a big disappointment at the moment, a complete new approach with some fresh perspectives would be nice. perhaps an Antholgy like "Tales of the Dominion War", many diffenrent authors with different styles and ideas would have been a better aproach to the Romulan-War-theme than the upcoming Papaerback. But let's see, what happens, perhaps it proves me wrong and turns out to be good. We have a bunch of very talented authors here which have brougth the Trek-books to a complete new level of quality. But still, on occasion it would be nice to read some new names. Maybe it's just me, but sometimes it feels that 90% of the trek-books are written by 5 people nowadays. Planning to do so, Amazon finally managed to send me a complete copy of "Full Circle", the first 150 pages were better than anything else I've read in Voyager. Hopefully the quality holds this level for the remaining 400 pages.
The diversity of authors is definitely better than Star Wars, which really does seem to have narrowed itself down to like 7 or 8 authors.
Well, using LightningStorm's list from upthread, we've had 25 novels/novellas in 16 months (not counting the short story anthology, and counting the MyrU novels individually). From that limited list, there are 6 authors/collaborative teams who had multiple works published in that period: Bennett (2), DeCandido (4), Mack (3), Martin & Mangels (2), Perry & Dennison (2), and Swallow (2). That's only 60% of the credits for the period, and they include the first ever Trek credits for Britt Dennison and James Swallow. Among the other ten with a single credit, you find a broad range from brand new Trek authors Chris Roberson and Olivia Woods, to veterans like Peter David and Kevin Ryan. Really, the Star Trek line is pretty great about spreading the love around...
1. How do you feel the Trek book line has done in the last 12-15 months? Overall great. I'm not a big fan of TOS books so it's ok they aren't getting much. I wish Enterprise would get more than one novel a year though. I would have similar complaints about DS9-R if I had been able to read past "These Haunted Seas". 2. What specifically have you liked in regards to the entire Trek book line in that time? The Destiny Trilogy, Kobayashi Maru, Full Circle, A Singular Destiny, Greater Than the Sum, Myriad Universes, Mirror Universe were all novels and series I have enjoyed greatly. I like the interconnectivity of the novels even if it makes for a "small universe" at times. 3. And what specifically have you disliked in regards to the Trek book line of the last year or so? I disliked the pushing back of the next Myriad Universes installment and other things caused by real world changes. 4. Were there any trends or recurring themes emergent in the last 12 months or so that you liked? I mostly liked the interconnectivity of the novels over standalones. 5. What trends or recurring themes evident in the last year did you dislike and why? 6. What changes or additions to the Trek book line have you liked editorial-wise (i.e. ebook mini-series, focus on one series over another)? I liked the balance between the series in the last year and this year compared to years past. 7. What editorial decisions from the last 12-15 months have you not liked? I didn't like the pushing back of various trade paperbacks next year although I understand why it was done. 8. What changes would you like to see in the Trek book line? Be it production choices or story editorial decisions? I would like to see the novels to continuiy to be connected. I also would like to see Myriad Universes become a yearly thing.
It's hard to say because I have admittedly lost interest. I like that they finally got J/C together in "Full Circle". Janeway's death! Relationships seem more real. I think the success of shows like Battlestar Galactica have convinced tptb that a darker Trek is a good thing. While I adore BSG I believe the original Trek vision of a hopeful future for humanity is what drew a lot of fans in the first place. No opinion. Janeway death! See above on the darker direction and Janeway's death.