The Continuity and Serialization of Voyager

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Voyager' started by DigificWriter, Oct 1, 2013.

  1. R. Star

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    What did they run out of coconuts to eat? Logic clearly dictates if you're going to engage in cannibalism, the Skipper should be first. More sustenance for everyone.
     
  2. Anwar

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    Gilligan actually saved their lives more than he botched attempts at getting them off the Island. Without him, they'd all be dead.
     
  3. Guy Gardener

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    Without him, every escape attempt would have been successful, especially the first.
     
  4. Anwar

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    Out of 98 episodes, only 37 involved a direct possibility of escaping the island. Of those 37, only 17 potential rescues were foiled as a result of Gilligan's actions. Admittedly, that's still a lot of rescues for one man to screw up, but the series also has a large number of episodes where Gilligan's actions save everybody - from death, enslavement, imprisonment, etc.

    The bigger screw up was the Professor, who despite being a super genius, couldn't fix a damn boat.

    And why the heck, if one was a mega Millionaire and another a World Class Actress beloved by many, didn't any rescue attempts come for them?!
     
  5. teacake

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    Maybe it was the proto-island of that island.
     
  6. Guy Gardener

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    The Professor was tapping Mary-Anne. He had no damn interest in leaving.
     
  7. Anwar

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    Then why did none of the Millionaire or the Movie Stars followers or whatever ever try to come look for them? They actually weren't that far away from the Mainland.
     
  8. Guy Gardener

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    Just because they weren't found doesn't mean people weren't looking.
     
  10. Bad Thoughts

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    Totally ruins the archetypes. The Professor (The Doctor) chases the semi-talented actress (Jeri Ryan).
     
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    It takes talent to wear a catsuit with conviction!
     
  12. Guy Gardener

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    Mary-Anne was Kes. The Doctor thought he was happily married to her for one fantastic day.
     
  13. Bad Thoughts

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    The Doctor also was aroused inside Seven of Nine.
     
  14. Guy Gardener

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    We don't know what he sang when he cut out part of B'Elanna's brain for his girlfriend.
     
  15. DigificWriter

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    I'm nearly halfway through Season 2 and not once have I yet gotten the impression that The Doctor has any romantic interest in Kes at all. Yes, she showed up as his wife in his hallucinations in Projections, but I got the impression that that occurrence was just random.
     
  16. Guy Gardener

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    Well that's the inherit discontinuity in Voyager for you.

    They take an episode like this where the wallpaper is set up from the subconscious of the character tapped as the episode lead. That's a cluster of bread crumbs that should be picked up by subsequent episodes, or those seeds should never have been planted.

    You know like the time Chakotay and B'Elanna made out in a dream, or Tom said that his entire life revolved around boats and sailing.

    Voyager continually started stories it had no interest in following through.
     
  17. DigificWriter

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    ^ As a writer myself, I wouldn't have even followed through on the Doctor/Kes or B'Elanna/Chakotay things because there was no reason to. Sometimes random occurrences are simply that: random occurrences.

    I'm not understanding the Tom reference, though.
     
  18. Guy Gardener

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    30 days.

    Why Tom was obsessed with the space ocean.

    "I loved mucking about in boats as a kid, I tried to sign up to the Coast Guard, but my daddy wouldn't let me, and then he made me join Starfleet instead. It's not fair. He ruins everything."

    Or words to that effect.
     
  19. MakeshiftPython

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    Dunno if they were seriously going for a Kes/Doc thing in the episode "Projections", but they definitely implied he had something for her much later in "Darkling". If Kes had stayed, I suspect it would have just been a one way thing much like Julian for Jadzia in DS9.
     
  20. Harvey

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    Or like they played the Doctor and Seven later on.