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Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

View Poll Results: Nemesis
Excellent 3 1.60%
Good 31 16.58%
Average 48 25.67%
Bad 49 26.20%
Terrible 56 29.95%
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Old April 26 2014, 01:50 AM   #376
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Re: Why Is Nemesis Unpopular?

C.E. Evans wrote: View Post
While I didn't like Nemesis at first and was pretty much on the basher bandwagon for a couple of years afterward, I've actually grown to like it after repeated viewings. I guess I was able to ignore some of the inconsistencies with previous stuff that used to bother me as well as have a bit more fun with the Picard & Data clones. I do consider Shinzon now a top villain in Trek these days--not quite up there with the original Khan, but better than most Trek villains, IMO.
It really isn't Final frontier bad (and I love the character moments in that), but it's a much more balls-out movie than Insurrection. At least it attempts to raise the stakes over and above the fate of some pretentious country-dwellers no-one gives a flying fuck about
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Old April 26 2014, 02:27 AM   #377
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Re: Why Is Nemesis Unpopular?

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I find it vaguely amusing that many of the people who deride Nemesis for what they see as its weak story are the same people who praise J.J. Abrams' movies though both have far weaker (and ultimately nonsensical) stories.
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Old April 26 2014, 02:48 AM   #378
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Re: Why Is Nemesis Unpopular?

It was better than Insurrection. All agree? Yes, that's what I thought.
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Old April 26 2014, 08:00 PM   #379
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Re: Why Is Nemesis Unpopular?

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C.E. Evans wrote: View Post
While I didn't like Nemesis at first and was pretty much on the basher bandwagon for a couple of years afterward, I've actually grown to like it after repeated viewings. I guess I was able to ignore some of the inconsistencies with previous stuff that used to bother me as well as have a bit more fun with the Picard & Data clones. I do consider Shinzon now a top villain in Trek these days--not quite up there with the original Khan, but better than most Trek villains, IMO.
It really isn't Final frontier bad (and I love the character moments in that), but it's a much more balls-out movie than Insurrection. At least it attempts to raise the stakes over and above the fate of some pretentious country-dwellers no-one gives a flying fuck about


Exactly-trying something significant and falling short is preferable to saying "screw it, we're not going to aim so high this time around."


Bad premise aside, INS just has a "WHO CARES?!?!?" element to the whole thing.
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