Threshold - great up until the lizard part?

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Voyager' started by Navaros, Jan 24, 2012.

  1. 7thsealord

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    Terrible episode. Idiocy aside, really just a gross-out fest.
     
  2. MacLeod

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    But the show would have been over if they did that. ;)
     
  3. Lange

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    Wasn't it retconned by the writers later on in a episode in a later season so its officially not canon?
     
  4. teacake

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    No.
     
  5. sevenstars

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    I know the premise was nonsense, but I always kind of liked the suggestion that we might eventually evolve into something a lot LESS complex, or aware.

    I mean, most of the time, it's more like "In a hundred thousand years, we'll be Qs, or Organians, or whatever..."
     
  6. JB2005

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    ^He should have got to the Alpha Quadrant purely through the speed he reached before he it transwarp...
     
  7. Sandoval

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    Thing is you can't really 'hit' infinite velocity, in the same way that you can't 'hit' infinity when you're counting.

    Warp ten isn't so much a speed as it is a mathematical concept.

    This is the problem the producers created by giving infinite velocity a name such as "warp ten" - it leads to people understandably thinking that after warp seven, warp eight and warp nine comes warp ten.

    All these galaxy-spanning speeds are not faster than warp ten, as people will obviously assume, but rather speeds in the range of warp 9.9999999999999+.

    But of course to portray this on TV becomes extremely cumbersome to the average viewer, so by calling infinite velocity "warp ten" you end up with clumsy-sounding "warp nine point nine seven five" lines which is about as many decimal places as you can reasonably say on TV without it getting silly.

    "I broke the warp ten barrier" makes as much sense as "I counted past infinity."
     
  8. JB2005

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    Yes...but this is the ship that escaped a black hole through a "crack in the event horizon"

    Performing acts of sorcery has never been a problem for them...
     
  9. Lange

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    No? I could of sworn I remember reading that the writers wanted to retcon it because of how rediculous it was, in a future episode Paris says "I never crossed the threshold" I don't remember what episode that was specificially maybe someone shed some light?
     
  10. JB2005

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    Yes, I forget the episode, but Braga later decanonised Threshold and this line was meant to make it clear!

    That's why the man's a pro!
     
  11. Sandoval

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    At what point in the last few years did people start confusing 'of' with 'have' then?

    Could of, would of, should of...
     
  12. sevenstars

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    About the same time the past participle lay down on its death bed, I'm afraid.
     
  13. JB2005

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    Mundanities...that is all
     
  14. teacake

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    Saying "I never crossed that threshold"' hardly makes it not canon.
     
  15. JB2005

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    Well it creates a discontinuity...
     
  16. teacake

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    pfft.. those things are everywhere.

    The important thing is Janeway and Paris had babies and one line isn't going to relegate them to apocrypha.
     
  17. Lange

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    I could of used "could have." Maybe I should of. But I don't think that would of changed the fact that grammar nazis are dickless maggots with no life. You sir are retconned from life.
     
  18. Sandoval

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    Did I hit a nerve? :lol:
     
  19. teacake

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    You might of.
     
  20. F. King Daniel

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    Hey, we got a sort-of apology on the Voyager DVD extras. Braga didn't have to do that, y'know.