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Old October 3 2013, 09:03 AM   #16
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Re: Are there any non-fiction books detailing the history of the Romul

I'm sure it's been mentioned before, but except when it's uncloaking to fire and briefly seen before cloaking, the only time the Enterprise is tracking the Romulan ship is while it's cloaked, and if it was only moving sublight when cloaked, then "simple impulse" makes sense. Maybe because "the power cost is enormous" it doesn't have enough power left over to run the warp drive when cloaked. To me that's the simplest answer and it avoids trying to redefine what impulse means or limit the Romulans to sublight speed all the time.
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Old October 4 2013, 05:31 PM   #17
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It took me too long to notice this thread.

I've always been torn about the "real" nature of the Romulan exodus. Spock mentions that he thinks that Sargon's people were in some way related to the Vulcans, which almost makes me think, in the grand scheme, that Vulcan and Romulus were both colonies of another, more ancient civilization that collapsed (which may or may not have been the same thing as the Preservers.)

It would almost make as much sense as anything if the two worlds simply developed in parallel, on different paths. Left to their own devices, the Vulcans, by nature of their assertion of logical principles, had an easier time of it and became more advanced more quickly. The Romulans, on the other hand, found themselves in a more rough situation and never had a Surak to lead them to logic, causing them to face more infighting along their path to becoming an interstellar power.
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Old October 5 2013, 02:55 PM   #18
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Re: Are there any non-fiction books detailing the history of the Romul

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I can't help but wonder why then it has not been recorded (see Spock's statement in "Balance of Terror"). Alternately it may just be a Romulan deception where in fact these want to avenge that their ancestors had been marooned on Romulus
First there can't be any "non-fiction" books on the Romulans, because they're a fictional race of peoples.

Spock not knowing anything about the Romulans right off hand could be because the Vulcans have been interstellar travelers for thousands of years. The Roumulan left Vulcan, but so did hundreds or thousands of other groups over the centuries. The Romulans departure might not have been considered anything special at the time and no important historical note was made of it.

Thank you! I'm floored that the first reply didn't point this out. You can't have a non-fictional work on a fictional thing.
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Old October 7 2013, 10:28 AM   #19
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I've always been torn about the "real" nature of the Romulan exodus. Spock mentions that he thinks that Sargon's people were in some way related to the Vulcans, which almost makes me think, in the grand scheme, that Vulcan and Romulus were both colonies of another, more ancient civilization that collapsed (which may or may not have been the same thing as the Preservers).
That's a fascinating theory. Here is the original quote:

SARGON: Because it is possible you are our descendants, Captain Kirk. Six thousand centuries ago, our vessels were colonising this galaxy, just as your own starships have now begun to explore that vastness. As you now leave your own seed on distant planets, so we left our seed behind us. ...
SPOCK: That would tend, however, to explain certain elements of Vulcan prehistory.

However, I tend to think that Spock was rather wondering how humanoid life developped on Vulcan in the first place.

It's correct, that Henoch insists that the Vulcan physiology is better capable of handling the stress of the merging, but that doesn't say that Sargon and company had pointed ears in their humanoid form, 600,000 years earlier.

I don't think the ancient Vulcan and Romulan headgear seen in both "Balance of Terror" and "Amok Time" is just a coincidental product of parallel development.

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Old October 7 2013, 08:16 PM   #20
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Old October 8 2013, 09:27 AM   #21
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Oh goodness, he never even heard of Uncle Remus?

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Re: Are there any non-fiction books detailing the history of the Romul

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There are the source books for the FASA role playing games too, pretty good stuff.
I thought there was a dedicated Romulan volume, but it didn't pop up in my previous search. Here 'tis:
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Th...ans_%28FASA%29
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Old October 13 2013, 10:02 PM   #23
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I think SFB might have their own take as well.
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