STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

How dare a film trigger an unexpected emotional response!

 

My god, that's a lot of Bad Robot plants. No wonder Para Mobius is so paranoid

 

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No wonder the movie didn't make any money!

 

Yea, all that potting soil for 3 million plants, had to have played hell with the budget

 

Star Trek: Into Darkness was a terrible movie for reasons that include (but are not limited to) the following:


-They killed Pike for no good reason.
-The Klingons looked like a completely new alien.
-Khan was horribly casted. That was not Khan...
-It was a cheap imitation of Star Trek II (with some bad Insurrection elements too).

 

It was a decent film but not near as good as the Trek reboot. I think it would've been better had it not been a retelling of The Wrath of Khan. And I personally liked the Klingons new look. But that's just me.

 

Mentor/Father figures are often killed off. Pretty standard stuff in fiction.

If it was 1979, you might have a point.

But there no way this




Is so different that these, that it would be "a completely new alien".

Cumberbatch was brilliant.

Had very little in common with TWOK. Different story.

 

The STiD guy even looks a little like Tony Todd.

 

I like the movie and it's not a bad or terrible one, but all it really tried to do was rewrite TWOK and failed to capture the powerful tale of friendship in that movie.

So i give it a C.

 

Yeah, I think the reboot is better than STID. STID just didn't go anywhere, despite the wide open universe they have to play in now.

 

I was actually pleasantly surprised by STID's willingness to address consequences created by the actions of the last film and carry character arcs forward, rather than beginning new ones.

The larger universe may not have been explored, but the character certainly felt more explored, to me.

 

It's been two years. I watched the movie six or seven times in theaters -- I hadn't intended to go quite that often, but new friends kept wanting to see it, and a couple of friends wanted to see it with me twice -- and then I didn't watch it again until tonight, despite owning the Blu Ray.

Yeah, I still like it a lot. Trails behind 09, but only slightly. Both of 'em are in my top three Trek movies, alongside VI. Good stuff, but a little bit of bad, too.

It doesn't hurt that I've never been a TWOK diehard by any stretch of the imagination. I didn't feel a moment's kneejerk over STiD's strange impulse to retread it so closely, yet so offputtingly. It is what it is, and I like Cumberbatch.

 

STiD and ST09 are constantly jockeying for top position. I am in the middle of watching STiD (for the 100th+ time) and I've already said to myself "Yes! This is the best of them all!" which will change the next time I watch ST09, at which point I will say "Yes! This is the best of them all!"

 

I keed, I keed...

 

Must you make everything sound dirty?

But I agree, though I love both I do tend to rank them equally. Where one isn't quite as strong, the other picks up on it, they have their own strengths.

 

Did TrekBBS ever conduct a poll about the 2009 film?

 

I see that, and I remember a bit of the "statement" that he read about (I think it was) Tom Arnold.

"I will not insult Tom Arnold. To do so would be too easy a task. It would be like pooping on poop." (Or words to that effect.)