"And the Children Shall Lead" wasn't all that bad...

Okay, hear me out.

I still think it's a bottom of the barrel episode, but on a recent rewatch, I actually derived some enjoyment out of watching it. Some "good" points:

• The premise is pretty creepy and interesting, it's just some of the writing and execution that falls flat. It's a Star Trek take on a classic horror story.
• Some of the (sadly unreleased) music is kind of cool.
• Redshirts beamed into space, knives in space, ugly old Uhura, Gorgan's face melting - there are some cool little moments and visuals throughout the episode.
• The whole cast gets something to do, which I always prefer over "Kirk, Spock and McCoy have an adventure".
• There's a lot of unintended hilarity, and I always enjoy that. It's not as fun as "Spock's Brain" but it's still good for a few laughs.

Anyone else here able to find some entertainment value in this episode?

 

You make some good points, and I agree unintended hilarity is fun. It's been awhile, I should rewatch it.

 

I think it is all that bad.

 

There are definitely some redeeming values to the episode. We get to see a different part of the ship (or a different decor of a previous one). We see the miraculous "out of tricorder" recording experience. The UFP flag. A view of the encampment dome that appears later on in "The Empath". And probably the most bizarre behavior ever of Captain Kirk, going paranoid and hugging Spock for comfort.

Other than that, I think it's just terribly done. An embarrassment, really. The best way to get through it is to take it as a tongue-in-cheek episode, like Plato's Stepchildren. But even that is a stretch. Worst episode ever made in the Star Trek franchise, IMHO.

 

I don't find it to be as terrible as most do.
Surely not good, but not the unwatchable worst of the worst.

It fails in the execution and style, I guess.
But I can appreciate the idea and story.

An alien who seeks to control by exploiting deepest fears and manipulating the most vulnerable members of a species? That's not bad.

Children controlled by alien influence, dancing about on the graves of their dead parents--victims of mass suicides. That is very disturbing and dark indeed. Very creepy, very un-Trek like.

There is a scary creepy dark story here.
An intriguing idea that got botched in the execution.
Better than most other bad eps, where even the *idea* sucks from the get-go.

 

I think you have hit the nail square on the head. Execution and style (probably due largely to budgetary constraints) I think are largely the cause of the so-called "bad episodes" being bad.

Also, I think the Gorgon's moo-moo gown was just wrong and took away from much of the gravitas of the episode's plot-line.

 

Apparently Starfleet’s standard-issue tricorders have automatic dolly, pan-and-tilt, zoom, and editing features!

“I'm losing command. I'm losing the Enterprise. The ship is sailing on and on. I'm alone. Alone. Alone. I'm losing command!” That scene is truly the most over-the-top Shatner moment in the entire series.

And the fact that he was played by high-profile attorney Melvin Belli, a man not known for his acting talent — at least, not outside of a courtroom.

 

I love the lazy story-telling when the just suddenly added a little vanity mirror next to Uhura's station so she could see her old self.

I'm not sure what this unreleased music is, but I would love to know more about that.

I just remembered something else... Shatner mentions it as one of their finest episodes in his Star Trek Memories book(!) I guess the researcher was out that day when Bill was typing.

 

I would attribute Uhura's console vanity mirror to Gorgon's powers.

There wasn't somehow a mirror there that we never noticed or was suddenly put there (for that, check Sickbay in "The Deadly Years). And I don't think The Friendly Angel materialized one, either.

But in the same way he caused Sulu to see space-swords (there weren't really giant knives out there), he caused Uhura to see herself as she faced her console. There wasn't really a mirror there, but he caused her to see herself as she looked there.
Right?

 

Tenuous but logical.

 

I agree with the "creepy concept, bad execution" sentiment as well. Conceptually, the story has a "Children of the Corn" quality to it, something just got lost in the translation to film.

 

That I can agree with. There is a potentially good story buried under this pile of over-the-top film refuse.

 

It probably hasn't aged well, but I would be lying if I didn't admit that this episode always scared me as a child. And it still has its creepy moments . . ..

(Hell, I even brought Gorgan back in one of my novels, so clearly he made some impression on me.)

I'd rather watch something weird that didn't quite work than a merely mediocre episode like, say, "Friday's Child."

 

Actually I just revisited this episode this afternoon:

 

While I can derive some pleasure out of most of the third season episodes, this is not one of them. To me it's unwatchable, along with "The Lights of Zetar" and "Plato's Step children".

 

It stunk. At least "Spock's Brain" and "Way to Eden" were good for a laugh, this had nothing.

 

Nice review, Warped9. I have to agree, that there is a lot of potential in the story. Too bad it's just so badly written. The dialog is seriously lacking. I wouldn't be surprised if the budget was seriously tight on this one.

 

Warped9 is right on the money with his review, glad to see we agree! A potentially good story buried under a lot of crap. Even with all the points I made in my original post, I'd still give the episode one star, and that's being kind.

About the children's "hand motion" - I can't believe no one in the cast or crew said "waaaaaaait a minute!" when they saw that gesture...

 

Maybe it was a budget thing, I don't know.
It seems someone had a fairly good story idea with "Children" but then couldn't get a script to support it and then the direction and acting couldn't support the script.

Too bad. Still, I gotta give points for story ideas that were at least good to begin with. There are more ST eps that were bad ideas from the start.

 

i thought that was a great one, Bonk Bonk!!!