Fringe: "6955 kHz" - Nov. 11 - Grading & Discussion

Man, I'm glad that someone else caught that too! Even as sick as I was last night watching the tape, that stood right out to me.

That aside, I thought this ep was excellent, too. I'm glad that there's now been a mention of the First People; I guess they're kinda like Stargate's Ancients. And I'm wondering if the reason that the guy who wrote the knows about them in the first place is because perhaps he's one of them? Perhaps they were either immortals, or had perfected cryonic technology and a small handful of them have been frozen.

Just speculating. But I'm fully hooked once again.

 

One glaring assumption is being made by everyone here regarding the numbers/coordinates/first people. Your assuming the book really does contain information from the "first people" and isn't just some whack job's writing being used by the alternates.

 

Could be that the First people were advanced enough to know what longitudes and latitudes their tech would be at millions of years later... perhaps they could see the future?

 

Given that we as yet know what the limits to their abilities/technology are, this is could be a possibility. I'm making the assumption that they were at least well beyond us and our alt-universe counterparts in terms of technology.

 

Clearly they were advanced enough to create a system to transmit these codes for millions of years. Why is it so hard to believe that they created the code to adapt to changes in the environment?

Also, the book didn't contain the latitudes and longitudes. It just contained the cypher to unlock the code that contained them.

 

Are all artifacts inland or are there some which are immersed too? I cannot remember Astrid's map correctly...

 

Inland, I think, but a number of them were in other countries. Should prove interesting for Fringe Division to obtain permission to go digging in other nations.

 

That's something I've been wondering too since learning that this device is THAT old. Logically, the answer is that Walternate keyed it to Peter, but if that's the case, then he had to have done it AFTER he brought Peter back to the alt-verse. There was no way he could've done it when Peter was a child, since the existence of OUR universe wasn't known yet.

So many questions...

 

^why would he have to know about our universe to key the device to Peter?

 

The Observer told Walter that ONE of the Peters had to live; since Walter’s was dead, that left Walternate’s. At some point, I’d really like Peter to know the WHOLE story--that Walternate missed seeing the cure, that Walter didn’t, and took steps to ensure that Peter lived.

 

Question... why can't Fringe have it's own sub-forum like Lost and Battlestar? It's the best sci-fi show on TV right now!

 

it's no a question of awesomeness but rather a matter of number of threads that would pop up and fill the forum's fist page...

 

I wanted him to tell Peter it was because of his mother, that he didn't have the strength to send him back. "Once your mother saw you there was no way I could send you back".
Because remember, Peter blames Walter for her death.

Maybe Peter has ancient dna so can use ancient technology.

 

How SG-1 ish of the writers

 

Boy, I was a complete Fringe hater in the first two years... I basically stopped watching the standalone episodes... but this season is EXCELLENT. Every episode has been interesting. They finally eliminated the worst thing about the show, Olivia's character, by replacing her with two different versions who both have a sense of humor. And the cross-universe-cutting storytelling is just great. And this stuff about the First People? Totally out there. I love it!

 

I think what I was hinting at is that since we think the thing is a weapon, why would Walternate be attempting to construct it and possibly use it at a time when he wouldn't have had empirical evidence of our universe, and it consequently being a threat to his. Sure, he could have keyed it to Peter prior to 1985; the question is why?