Dead Parents

Discussion in 'Star Trek: The Next Generation' started by Verteron, Dec 19, 2010.

  1. Verteron

    Verteron Lux in tenebris lucet Premium Member

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    I was just watching The Bonding (awful episode IMHO, but nonetheless):

    Has anyone noticed the rather high level of 'absent parents' (or other near relatives prematurely deceased) in the TNG main cast?

    • Will Riker - mother died when he was two
    • Worf - an orphan
    • Geordi LaForge - mother missing (presumed dead) during the series
    • Wesley Crusher - dead father
    • Beverley Crusher - dead husband
    • Deanna Troi - dead father
    • Data - creator died during the series
    • Tasha Yar - both parents killed on Turkana IV

    Only Picard's parents seem to have died from old age. Doctor Crusher's mother died of old age during the series, but she was 'bereaved' already by Jack's death.

    Any thoughts on whether the writers noticed this, or whether it's deliberate? It's fairly crazy, is Starfleet or the 24th century really that dangerous?!
     
  2. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

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    It's just the laws of drama. Characters with happy, contented lives aren't as interesting. Consider the fatality rate for the romantic interests of any TV hero from the '60s-'80s.
     
  3. Shatnertage

    Shatnertage Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Reminds me of Lost. Everyone's either got dead parents or daddy issues. Worf, whose adoptive parents were merely well-meaning and embarrassing, might have had the best relationship. We know that Riker was compelled to dress up like a power ranger and duke it out with his dad, and Picard, at least subconsciously, was dogged by the fact that his father thought he was a loser.

    It does make better drama, but it's kind of funny when you think about it. For all of the talk of how humanity has evolved, parents and kids still don't understand each other.
     
  4. Finn

    Finn Bad Batch of TrekBBS Admiral

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    ^It was implied that Beverly's mother died relatively young in the fan favorite Sub Rosa.
     
  5. SiorX

    SiorX Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    ^Wot he said. It was Crusher's grandmother who died in Sub Rosa. Her mother died when Beverly was a child. No word on her father, except that we know he didn't raise her.
     
  6. SchwEnt

    SchwEnt Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Even more odd when you consider that in the 24th c, humans are living well into their 100s, maybe 120, 130.

    You'd expect that a couple generations of one's family would be living, maybe all the way up to a great-great grandparent. But TNG crew can barely get their immediate parents to stick around.
     
  7. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

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    Well, if we went by the original conception of TNG, the Enterprise-D was intended to be a ship that would spend years, even decades, in deep space, never returning to a home port. It stands to reason that a mission like that would preferentially attract people who didn't have extensive family ties -- either people who could bring their families with them or who weren't leaving anyone behind at all.

    However, once TNG's original producers left, their ideas for the show were mostly abandoned, and this ship that was intended as a deep-space exploration platform spent most of its time hanging around Federation space on diplomatic, political, or relief missions. But it could still explain things if you assume the crew expected to be away from home for a long time but the mission ended up being different than the original planners intended.
     
  8. Timo

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    It may even be that being familially dysfunctional is an entry requirement for Starfleet: well-balanced people from wholesome homes just plain don't volunteer for the risky adventures and astronomical-scale boredom that Starfleet offers.

    Or the reverse effect may be at play: people from a family line that takes such risks tend to die young and leave behind assorted orphans.

    Timo Saloniemi
     
  9. RandyS

    RandyS Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Actually, you can add Crusher's mom to this list. "Sub Rosa" establishes that she did not, in fact die of old age. She died when Beverly was still a kid, and Beverly was raised by her grandma at that point.
     
  10. Verteron

    Verteron Lux in tenebris lucet Premium Member

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    Quite right, it's been a while since I've watched Season 7 without skipping over that episode!
     
  11. J.Ashmore

    J.Ashmore Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Beverly's parents both died. Whether from the tragedy on Arveda III or sometime after, it isn't sure. She says so in 'Arsenal of Freedom.' After they died, she was raised by her grandmother and they settled on Caldos.
     
  12. Kestra

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    This is pretty much what I was thinking.
     
  13. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

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    If that were true, there wouldn't have been provisions for families aboard Galaxy-class and other Starfleet vessels. Also, it's easily disproven that all Starfleet officers are "required" to come from broken or dysfunctional homes. The La Forge family was stable and whole for many years prior to the Hera's disappearance, and at least three of its members were in Starfleet. Worf came from a stable and loving adoptive family, regardless of what happened to his birth parents. The Sisko family was healthy and close-knit. O'Brien was a family man and seemed to get along well with his family back home (whom he often took time off to visit). Harry Kim was extremely close to his parents. Tuvok had a large, stable family. And so on.
     
  14. Timo

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    There'd hardly be a written-down requirement there - but the general gist would be that only those with suicidal genes would end up in Starfleet, with obvious consequences, and the LaForge family would be a good example: sooner or later, somebody would die of "occupational causes". Two parents might still be more common than one, zero or three, but the demographics could still plausibly be very different from the civilian population.

    Of the Galaxy family accommodations, many were apparently dedicated to single-parent families. We don't know if this was because only one parent would choose to be aboard, or because only one parent was alive (and although we do know single parents were REALLY prevalent just because casting two would cost twice as much, we can't say so!), but the thing is, we only really ever saw one two-parent family with kids exploit those facilities: the O'Briens.

    Timo Saloniemi
     
  15. JarodRussell

    JarodRussell Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Yawn, really. Everyone having daddy-issues. It's a silly stereotype.
     
  16. J.Ashmore

    J.Ashmore Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I've noticed that everyone in Star Trek seems to have a sob story. But, yet again, if our favorites didn't have troubled pasts, what would be the joy in getting to know them? Drama (in fictional television, anyways) is usually gold for me!
     
  17. RandyS

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    Not to mention a pathetically over-used plot device. The new BSG is a good example of this. Humanity was wiped out, but are the survivors concerned with that? No, instead they spend their time bitching about their sad little lives BEFORE they lost everything.
     
  18. Anji

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    The only reason I could think of why most characters have lost one or more parents is this is a carryover from most TV series in the 60s and the 70s. Many series during that time were about a single parents or about children that were living in fractured families.

    Any TNG writers out there who could help us out???? Were most of you on the writing staff raised by single parents and thereby understand the fear involved with losing a parent? I certainely understand how that can affect your life, which made me identify tremendously with the TNG characters.
     
  19. Christopher

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    No, I think it's more to do with shifting demographics. It's more common today for adults to have both parents living than it was back then. So there's been a steady increase over time in fictional characters who had living parents. It's more a part of life today, so it's more a part of fiction. For 45 years, Superman's adoptive parents were portrayed as dead in his adult life, but then from the '80s reboot onward, they were alive in his adult life. In the original Doctor Who, the Doctor's companions never seemed to have parents or families, but now they all do. And so on.
     
  20. Smellincoffee

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    Another factor to consider: convenience. It's easier to deal with the extended family by having them dead (unless family members can contribute to shows) than having the characters reference them as often as 'normal' people do, or by making the main characters seem strange by almost never referring to their extended family over the course of seven years.