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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
A+ 144 19.20%
A 161 21.47%
A- 101 13.47%
B+ 83 11.07%
B 59 7.87%
B- 27 3.60%
C+ 40 5.33%
C 38 5.07%
C- 25 3.33%
D+ 11 1.47%
D 13 1.73%
D- 10 1.33%
F 38 5.07%
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Old August 3 2014, 06:21 AM   #5086
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

If Malik did start reciting Moby Dick dialogue and intended to destroy the Enterprise with his self destruction, I would say they went further beyond doing a call back.

For what it's worth, when I was watching the flick and that scene came up, I was thinking "you gotta be kidding me", but then I started to get into it because the actors were doing a hell of a job selling the scene (Chris Pine's "I'm scared Spock" is great). It was actually working for me. But then Spock yelled "KHHHHHAAAAAAAN" and it dropped like a brick, or a starship plummeting down San Fransisco. They had me, they didn't have to take it further with that awful bit.
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Old August 3 2014, 05:49 PM   #5087
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I only first saw STID last month, and today feel jaded that it doesn't fulfill advance promos that told us someone detonated the fleet. I didn't see any fleet detonations in it.
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Old August 3 2014, 07:04 PM   #5088
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That's because it should have been Lazarus as the villain. He could detonate universes, let alone a simple thing like a Starfleet.
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Old August 3 2014, 10:48 PM   #5089
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I'm starting to think whoever wrote that advance ad copy, as well as whoever approved it, doesn't have a firm grasp of the English language.
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Oh my God, the next movie should totally be the reboot "The Alternative Factor." Nobody but nobody would see that coming.
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Old August 16 2014, 08:16 AM   #5091
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

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I'm starting to think whoever wrote that advance ad copy, as well as whoever approved it, doesn't have a firm grasp of the English language.
Yeah, that was a head scratcher. When I heard that, all I could think of was "the fleet what?" because you don't detonate a fleet. You can destroy a fleet, you can decimate a fleet, but you can't detonate a fleet, unless you armed all of their matter/anti-matter chambers to explode, but even then, detonating the fleet doesn't sound right, and doesn't quite work. Not the fault of the movie, though, which I enjoyed immensely!
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Old August 16 2014, 05:34 PM   #5092
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The moment of detonation referred to occurs at 2:28



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Old August 17 2014, 02:40 AM   #5093
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The moment of detonation referred to occurs at 2:28



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That could have had something to do with what the copy-writer was on about, but the fleet isn't being detonated. In fact it wasn't even that damaging if IIRC. Just a way for HK to get SF top brass in one place. Combine the two events and you are closer in a metaphorical sense, but it still doesn't really work that well.

Or to quote teacake (November 27 2012):
Well you wouldn't want the unstoppable force of terror to just blow up a couple buildings in San Francisco would you? How is that going to leave our world in a state of crisis and propel people into manhunts?
I have no idea.
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Old December 11 2014, 07:11 PM   #5094
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Just a fun nugget: Seems that Jerome Bixby ("Mirror, Mirror", "The Day of the Dove", "Requiem for Methuselah") would've pitched an episode where the Enterprise lands on a water world if TOS had been renewed.

http://www.amazon.com/Mirror-Classic...=1418321369976
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