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Old July 23 2014, 05:59 AM   #136
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The younger Spock in The Cage was more emotional than he was by the time of TOS era. Reboot Spock is younger than Spock Prime was in TOS.
Also, Reboot Spock has a relationship with Uhura, who does encourage him to show emotions. He loses Amanda at a much younger age and Vulcan, so Reboot Spock is living a very different life than Spock Prime.
Absolutely. nuSpock is younger, and less mature in regards to his emotional control. I mean, even Saavik showed some minor hints of emotion and was not the pure logical control like Spock was in TWOK.

In addition, one of my favorite aspects of Sarek was the wisdom of his lines to Spock in Star Trek 2009. One that stood out to me, and was a major theme I picked up on in Spock's arc was this line:

"Emotions run deep within our race, in many way more deeply than with humans. Logic offers us a serenity human seldom experience: the control of feelings, so that they do not control you."
And that is the journey that Spock is on. He is trying to find that serenity that Sarek talked about, but he is still learning. There are still events that get under his skin, that push him to his limits.

Kirk's death, to me, was that final straw. He had lived with death for a year, trying to bury it, trying to deal with it, and then more death comes all at once.

As a quick aside, I think Nero and his crew in 09 represented the potential loss of control and emotional nature that Sarek is speaking about.

Spock is not emotionless, but in control. nuSpock is still learning that. That's why his "Khan" never bothered me.
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Old August 3 2014, 04:12 AM   #137
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No I didn't find it amusing at all I felt for Spock.
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Old August 7 2014, 12:54 AM   #138
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Yes, there was snickering in my theater. Very awkward moment.
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Old August 7 2014, 01:24 PM   #139
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Yes, there was snickering in my theater. Very awkward moment.
I agree.it was awkward.
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Old August 7 2014, 05:54 PM   #140
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No snickering and no laughing when I saw it. There may have been a few "Go get him Spock!"s uttered though.
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Old August 8 2014, 03:43 AM   #141
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Sheesh, people, you knew it was coming. Just like every Planet of the Apes movie sneaks in a variation of, "Take your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty ape!"
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Old August 8 2014, 02:49 PM   #142
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Imagine the outrage had it been omitted!
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Old August 8 2014, 09:25 PM   #143
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The true role switch would have been if Carol screamed Khan. But simple role switches like this are always silly, and everyone knows that the right way would have been for Keenser to scream it. Did you know that the poor creature can, in moments of severe emotional affect, deliver unparalleled screams that you would have never expected?
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Old August 8 2014, 10:19 PM   #144
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The true role switch would have been if Carol screamed Khan. But simple role switches like this are always silly, and everyone knows that the right way would have been for Keenser to scream it. Did you know that the poor creature can, in moments of severe emotional affect, deliver unparalleled screams that you would have never expected?

Interesting, you make a good point. it would have been interesting of carol screamed Khan. than would have been less obvious and unpredictable.
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Old August 9 2014, 12:55 AM   #145
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The true role switch would have been if Carol screamed Khan. But simple role switches like this are always silly, and everyone knows that the right way would have been for Keenser to scream it. Did you know that the poor creature can, in moments of severe emotional affect, deliver unparalleled screams that you would have never expected?

Interesting, you make a good point. it would have been interesting of carol screamed Khan. than would have been less obvious and unpredictable.
And quite a bit more awkward since Carol Marcus was in sickbay with a shattered leg.
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Old August 9 2014, 01:01 AM   #146
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The true role switch would have been if Carol screamed Khan. But simple role switches like this are always silly, and everyone knows that the right way would have been for Keenser to scream it. Did you know that the poor creature can, in moments of severe emotional affect, deliver unparalleled screams that you would have never expected?

Interesting, you make a good point. it would have been interesting of carol screamed Khan. than would have been less obvious and unpredictable.
And quite a bit more awkward since Carol Marcus was in sickbay with a shattered leg.
But, she could've screamed, "Khaaaaan!" after she saw him crush her father's head. Moment missed, I say.

Come to think of it, Kirk could've screamed, "Harrisssoooon!" after Pike was killed. Wonder how that would've gone over.

Or, Khan could've screamed, "Spoooooccck!" as the torpedoes exploded in the Vengeance.

Good stuff, all of that.
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Old August 9 2014, 01:05 AM   #147
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But, she could've screamed, "Khaaaaan!" after she saw him crush her father's head. Moment missed, I say.
I have to say that the head crushing scene was great and Pine and Eve's facial expressions really sold what Khan had done without having to see it.
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Old August 9 2014, 02:31 AM   #148
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But, she could've screamed, "Khaaaaan!" after she saw him crush her father's head. Moment missed, I say.
I have to say that the head crushing scene was great and Pine and Eve's facial expressions really sold what Khan had done without having to see it.
Agreed. Pine, in particular.
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Old August 9 2014, 10:36 AM   #149
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Or Chekov could've screamed....then it would've really been 1982 all over again. (which reminded us of 1979...which in turn reminded us of "Day of the Dove" and "Mirror, Mirror". )
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Old August 9 2014, 08:47 PM   #150
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may be no one should have screamed khan.
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