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Old July 31 2014, 01:14 AM   #496
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Re: 2014 MLB Season: How Many Pitchers Will Die For Our Sins?

Papelbon is a jerk and an asshole. Always has been.
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Old July 31 2014, 01:41 AM   #497
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I'm gonna miss Jon Lester.
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Old July 31 2014, 04:29 AM   #498
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Jonathan Papelbon has told the Phillies that he will not waive his no-trade clause to go to a team that will use him as anything less than a full-time closer.

Never give a relief pitcher a no-trade clause. Rube gonna Rube.
Just fucking cut him. That was one move that always looked unequivocally bad. It wasn't a gamble. It wasn't "well, we don't have a lot of options anyway." It was "let's get rid of the guy we have who seems just as good for somebody we can pay far, far more who happens to be a bigger name." In addition, he comes off as having a terrible attitude. He doesn't want to be here, but doesn't apparently want to be traded either.

He's far different from the players who have been here awhile and love being in Philly, but are frustrated by not winning. Or even the players who don't want to leave but might still have some trade value and might not get a choice. Or a player like Howard whose contract is an albatross, but at least earned goodwill through years of being a good part of this team. Papelbon has none of that going for him.
I agree with you, but there's one problem: Papelbon is owed potentially $26 million over the next two seasons, and Philadelphia's owners don't want just eat that as a sunk cost -- they're still paying Ryan Howard a zillion dollars to OPS like .680, there's no way they're cutting Papelbon.
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Old July 31 2014, 11:07 AM   #499
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http://www.sports-reference.com/blog...s-discrepancy/

Explaining the Honus Wagner hits discrepancy!

Confused me until I read this.

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Old July 31 2014, 12:36 PM   #500
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I'm gonna miss Jon Lester.
To the Orioles maybe?
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Old July 31 2014, 02:22 PM   #501
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Well Jason Hammel is having a terrible time in Oakland. Skippy.
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Old July 31 2014, 02:27 PM   #502
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I admit I was pleased to see the Phillies crushed last night. Jif.
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Old July 31 2014, 02:28 PM   #503
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Well Jason Hammel is having a terrible time in Oakland. Skippy.
I wonder if Billy Beane has called the Cubs yet, only for Hoyer to say, "No backsies," then immediately hang up.
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Old July 31 2014, 02:56 PM   #504
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HOLY SHIT

Lester and Gomes to Oakland for Cespedes.
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Old July 31 2014, 03:23 PM   #505
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The A's traded Cespedes? Planters.
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I really wish one team had the balls to do nothing for Jeter when he plays for the last time in their stadium. Like just totally ignore the fact he's retiring. I like Jeter but I'm so over this retirement tour.
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Old July 31 2014, 03:32 PM   #507
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HOLY SHIT

Lester and Gomes to Oakland for Cespedes.
OMFG.

OMFG!!!!!!!!!

I have to process this.

My first reaction is sorrow. I love La Potencia, and I hate to see him go. He is amazing, and he will be a fixture for the Sox for many years to come. I cannot believe that he was even on the table. Dammit Billy Beane, must you be SO methodical and heartless? Screw you.

My second reaction is joy. Lester is a fantastic, proven pitcher and the A's rotation is now

1) Shark
2) Grey
3) Kazmir
4) Lester
5) Chavez or Hammel (here's hoping it's Chavez)

Who wouldn't want that kind of rotation?
The A's could not have afforded to pay Yoenis Cespesdes his market value in 2015, and in all fairness, he is a flawed player who has flashes of brilliance followed by periods of ineptitude. He can crush home runs but he swings at everything. He makes mistakes in the outfield but the spectacular recoveries he makes is what gets the attention.

Sigh.... I have to say this is a good trade. The A's can't have it all (great bats and great pitching) and pitching along with solid defense wins championships. In addition Jonny Gomes was loved in Oakland, and we tried to resign him. He is a good fit in the Melvin Platoon squad, and has good clubhouse chemistry.
Cespedes was a special player, but this trade makes Oakland a force in the postseason, well at least this year.
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Old July 31 2014, 03:40 PM   #508
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The A's traded Cespedes? Planters.
Oakland had to do something after Hammel shit the bed upon returning to the AL, and Beane is pretty clearly going all-in. They have a goofy run differential (seriously, +162 is some video game bullshit) so shoring up their pitching was a necessity. They were never going to be able to re-sign Cespedes anyway (free agent after next year, no arbitration), so it makes sense to trade him for a three-month rental of Lester. Gomes isn't a huge downgrade and he absolutely mashes lefties.

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I really wish one team had the balls to do nothing for Jeter when he plays for the last time in their stadium. Like just totally ignore the fact he's retiring. I like Jeter but I'm so over this retirement tour.
I said this around the All-Star Game, but I really hate Chipper Jones for starting the retirement tour bullshit. Last year with Rivera, I could get behind that, because he was still the best reliever in the game when he retired. Jeter hasn't been good in years.
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Old July 31 2014, 04:11 PM   #509
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I am looking forward to seeing Jonny Gomes in an A's uniform again. He is well loved in Oakland.
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Old July 31 2014, 06:33 PM   #510
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HOLY SHIT WHAT IS BOSTON SMOKING

Lackey to St. Louis for Craig and Kelly.

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