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Old July 31 2014, 02:01 AM   #1
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Chakotay and Seska (Spoilers if you haven't watched S2)

After watching Basics Part 2 we find out that Seska's baby is not Chakotay's as everyone thought. Did the Doctor ever tell him? Or is it just assumed that he was told?
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Old July 31 2014, 02:22 AM   #2
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Re: Chakotay and Seska (Spoilers if you haven't watched S2)

It would be hilarious if the EMH wasn't allowed to tell him because of doctor/patient confidentiality with Seska

Yes he found out!

There are a lot of developments with this storyline so I would not read this thread if you don't want to be spoiled.
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Old July 31 2014, 02:33 AM   #3
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Lol. If they ever brought Trek back to TV; I'd love a follow up to the Chakotay/Seska baby thing. The baby being grown up by now and seeking revenge on his Papa Chakotay. After that whole spirit visit Chakotay had with his dad over becoming a father, it seemed lame to pull the rug out from under the audience like they did in Basics Part 2. Chock the paternity issue to being a problem with the EMH mark I getting this wrong. A problem noted with them being taken out of service on Starfleet vessels and facilities later in VOY during the episode Life Line.
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Old July 31 2014, 02:38 AM   #4
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Re: Chakotay and Seska (Spoilers if you haven't watched S2)

Why DID they pull it? I seem to remember hearing something about this, that originally the baby was intended to be Chak's.
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Old July 31 2014, 02:39 AM   #5
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Re: Chakotay and Seska (Spoilers if you haven't watched S2)

It's been so long since I've seen "Basics 1 & 2" that I thought the baby died with Seska.
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Old July 31 2014, 02:46 AM   #6
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Re: Chakotay and Seska (Spoilers if you haven't watched S2)

No, Culluh took the baby with him when he left his dead mistress.

Re: the OP... since the entire Voyager crew was wrapped up into the mission to save Chak's son, it would have been negligence for the EMH to keep that knowledge from Chakotay and crew.
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Old July 31 2014, 02:48 AM   #7
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It's been so long since I've seen "Basics 1 & 2" that I thought the baby died with Seska.
Me too. Did they give the baby to the Kazon?

Edit: JanewayRulz beat me to it.
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Old July 31 2014, 03:22 AM   #8
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Thanks. I'm glad it wasn't his. It would have been awful if he resented the baby's existence because of his hatred towards Seska.
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Old July 31 2014, 03:24 AM   #9
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I doubt he would resent it. I think his family values would kick in and he would abandon Voyager if necessary to go and find it.

You know, like how Janeway and Tom did for their triplets.
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Old July 31 2014, 03:27 AM   #10
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If the baby was Chakotay's the writers would have been in an awkward position. If Cullah leaves the baby behind, now Chakotay has a half Cardassian baby. If Cullah takes him, Chakotay assumes that the baby will be mistreated because he is not Cullah's and has to rescue him. Again, either Chakotay has to find the baby, or the baby has to get killed which makes the audience uncomfortable.

Their only out to avoid doing stories they didn't want to do was to have the baby be Cullah's.

Now, the Borg baby. They took the same out only they hand-waved its existence. Canonically I guess they left it somewhere and forgot about it. Or Janeway had it removed from the records and ordered the Doctor to study it in Cerberusian fashion, after adding a subroutine to his program to ethically ignore what he was doing.
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Old July 31 2014, 03:30 AM   #11
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How 'bout if Q showed up and took the baby back to Cardassia and gave it to Seska's family. Oh wait, they don't really like half breed Cardassians so better if he went back to earth and gave it to Chak's sister or some relative I vaguely remember reading about in books.
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Old July 31 2014, 03:31 AM   #12
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I doubt he would resent it. I think his family values would kick in and he would abandon Voyager if necessary to go and find it.

You know, like how Janeway and Tom did for their triplets.
Those poor little lizard babies I predict years of abandonment issues resulting in lifelong therapy sessions about why their parents left them.
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Old July 31 2014, 03:34 AM   #13
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Ooh, ooh, Voyager novel idea!

The lizards come and take over the AQ. They are about to destroy Earth when they get hailed by Janeway. "...Mom?"
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Old July 31 2014, 03:34 AM   #14
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Re: Chakotay and Seska (Spoilers if you haven't watched S2)

OH MY GOD!!!!

I suddenly remember you are newish here Janeway's Girl and that means I get to post this for your love and enjoyment.

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Old July 31 2014, 03:35 AM   #15
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Now, the Borg baby. They took the same out only they hand-waved its existence. Canonically I guess they left it somewhere and forgot about it. Or Janeway had it removed from the records and ordered the Doctor to study it in Cerberusian fashion, after adding a subroutine to his program to ethically ignore what he was doing.
I was at a con 14? years ago and Braga basically laughed and admitted they just forgot the Borg baby.
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