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Old July 21 2014, 09:53 AM   #1216
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Re: Starship Size Argument™ thread

Okay, now that is irrefutable
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Old July 29 2014, 11:43 PM   #1217
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Re: Starship Size Argument™ thread

So...does that mean...is this thread over?

Did we win?
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Old July 30 2014, 01:36 AM   #1218
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Kruezerman wrote: View Post
So...does that mean...is this thread over?

Did we win?
The only way to win, is to not play.
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Old July 30 2014, 01:40 AM   #1219
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Re: Starship Size Argument™ thread

But what were the victory conditions to begin with?
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Old July 30 2014, 01:50 AM   #1220
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So...does that mean...is this thread over?

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The only winning move is not to play.
FTFY.
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Old July 30 2014, 01:52 AM   #1221
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Kruezerman wrote: View Post
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So...does that mean...is this thread over?

Did we win?
The only winning move is not to play.
FTFY.
Couldn't remember the exact quote and was too lazy to look it up!
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Old July 30 2014, 10:24 AM   #1222
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It's all good, the other quote is from Tron Legacy.
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Old July 30 2014, 11:35 AM   #1223
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Tron Legacy! Loved that movie! Eagerly awaiting a third movie!
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Old July 30 2014, 09:31 PM   #1224
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So...does that mean...is this thread over?

Did we win?
We won

(until ST3, when the cycle begins anew...)
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Old July 31 2014, 02:21 AM   #1225
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So...does that mean...is this thread over?

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(until ST3, when the cycle begins anew...)
Can … can I start an argument about the size of the starship size argument thread?
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Old July 31 2014, 07:39 AM   #1226
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Re: Starship Size Argument™ thread

"Star Trek: Prelude to Axanar" uses these Kelvin-based ships, resized and redone with TOS style warp nacelles.
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Old August 2 2014, 10:57 AM   #1227
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Can … can I start an argument about the size of the starship size argument thread?
It's 725Mb, not a byte less!!!!
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"Star Trek: Prelude to Axanar" uses these Kelvin-based ships, resized and redone with TOS style warp nacelles.
I must admit, that annoyed me a little bit - but it's their fanfic, they can do whatever they want.
Here's my post about it from the Axanar thread:
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Getting my hands on the Axanar size comparison chart via Facebook, I thought I'd see just how much Axanar shrunk the new movieverse ships. It's a LOT more than I thought! Here it is for anyone interested:

And here's a window comparison. I'm really glad the details were modified to reflect the new smaller sizes, but I wish the saucers were modified a little more, like losing the ring around the top.
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Old August 3 2014, 07:35 PM   #1228
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I am glad they used JJ-ships though. But I do wish they kept the nacelle designs and the size.

Five smaller Klingon cruisers ambushing a lumbering Federation battleship? Fuck yeah.
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Old August 4 2014, 07:07 AM   #1229
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It would make for an interesting tech discussion if the older, giant, starships were massively inferior to the later, smaller Constitution-class ships. And that their warp drives were either slower, inefficient, or just plain different from what we got later on.

The size might also give a clue of why Starfleet was able to hold on for a few years with inferior technology (compared to the Klingons). Just because there were so large and armored, it took several Klingon ships to take one down before it retreated, otherwise it could just get away from a single Klingon cruiser, just didn't have the firepower to do anything about the Klingon without a lot of effort (massively inferior weapons, more so that on Enterprise due to improvements in Klingon shielding).
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Old August 4 2014, 12:45 PM   #1230
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It would make for an interesting tech discussion if the older, giant, starships were massively inferior to the later, smaller Constitution-class ships. And that their warp drives were either slower, inefficient, or just plain different from what we got later on.
Well in Enterprise they decided to show the Vulcans having ships between 300-600 meters in length. These are clearly inferior to the much later Constitution class. We don't have to assume the ships of the early Federation were tiny. Some might have been significantly larger than some later ones.

Later ships could be more automated, or have far more advanced computers that are much smaller but far more powerful. Bulkier doesn't necessarily imply more advanced.
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