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The Next Generation All Good Things come to an end...but not here.

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Old July 22 2014, 03:40 AM   #16
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Re: TNG parallels question

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I get the feeling that "Where Silence Has Lease" was catching Worf at a phenomenally bad moment
That episode was catching everyone at a phenomenally bad moment IMO...characterization-wise, it's like a crappy Trek novel. It's particularly responsible for making early impressions of Pulaski as bad as they are...take away this one episode and she's only a fraction as bad.
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Old July 22 2014, 03:53 AM   #17
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Don't we actually see 'our' universe on a viewscreen at one point, and Worf is in his usual position at the background of the bridge? Or am I misremembering that? If true then one assumes this is one of the other Worfs, who have been similarly universe-hopping.
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Old July 22 2014, 05:22 AM   #18
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It really starts to get confusing when they detect quantum variations or something in Worf and the shuttlecraft, making it a physical displacement. Up until that point, it might have simply been Worf's consciousness was slipping between universes.
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Old July 22 2014, 02:58 PM   #19
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Each jump was into a universe which branched off slightly further back each time. From hours earliernwhen a cake was chosen to years when picard was dead and he was married with kids
That seems a plausible notion, although, didn't the discrepancies begin with Worf's placement in the batleth tournament? That would seem to be farther back (Like a day or more) than the few minutes or hours noted in the birthday party. It's hard to get a bead on it. I'd have to rewatch the episode and hone in on all the discrepancies & when they occured, considering that perspective. Hhhmmmm, or did the change in trophies take place after the party? maybe you're right.
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Maybe that also explains the scene in the shuttlecraft with a dozen Worfs there simultaneously. Perhaps these were all the Worfs that were displaced from their home realities?
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Old July 22 2014, 05:09 PM   #20
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That seems a plausible notion, although, didn't the discrepancies begin with Worf's placement in the batleth tournament?
Er... no. The first discrepancies Worf notes are the birthday cake and Picard being present (but he doesn't think about them any further because those changes are too trivial). It is only when he has his 'memory loss' and finds out that he suddenly didn't become champion that he starts to realise he has a serious problem.

moreover, we know that he wasn't in the "prime universe" at the beginning of the ep because when he came back to the prime universe, there was no birthday party (but there was one in the first scene, so there must have been a jump already). In both universes however, he won "champion standing".

So I think that could only mean that there had been a jump already, but too small (yet) to change the tournament result.

The evidence would therefore fit the theory, imho.
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Old July 27 2014, 03:18 PM   #21
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I think the Bajorans switching places with the Cardassians in the end was a hell of a change. It would be like star fleet becoming the klingon Empire and vice versa.
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