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Old July 24 2014, 07:57 PM   #1351
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^ Yeah I had to go into town today anyway, and managed to get the last one left in Forbidden Planet, whoop! (must have been an error on the site; I see know they've corrected all their future dates)



I'm only getting the Starfleet ships, so in the initial 40 issue run there's really only the Oberth-class and the Enterprise-B left for me (not counting the Runabout & Delta Flyer, not sure if I'm gonna bother with the shuttles)

So I'm definitely hoping to see the Enterprise-C/Ambassador-class in the next line up, and then the other 3 new ships apart from the Akira-class made for First Contact.


Out of interest out of those three classes which would most people be interested in seeing?
Steamrunner, Saber or Norway?


None of them seem as detailed as the Akira-class really. Do you think that's why even is DS9 you never really see them up close in the same why you did with Mirandas, Excelsiors, Galaxys etc? So it'll be interesting to see what they can do with the models.
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Old July 24 2014, 08:13 PM   #1352
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I think we saw Steamrunners in DS9. Don't know about Sabers, though. The Norway model was lost/corrupted after First Contact. The latter, IIRC, wasn't as high-res as the Akira and her other classmates, yes.
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Old July 24 2014, 08:25 PM   #1353
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Yeah I remember that Norway thing. You do see Sabers & Steamrunners in the big DS9 battle scene eps like Tears of the Prophets, Changing Face of Evil etc, but they're always in the background pretty small, or whizzing by the screen.

They're never really seen up close for a good view, in the way in Tears of the Prophets (that's in my head as I watched it the other day) for example there are some great close ups of Excelsiors & Galaxys getting ripped to shreds.


A good round up, inc Akiras, Sabers and Steamrunners




But mostly the close ups are of the more familar Trek Starfleet vessels.






I was just wondering whilst watching it whether that was because they were chosen to be more familiar to viewers as Starfleet ships, or if it was because the details on the Steamrunners & Sabers weren't up to scratch

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Old July 25 2014, 04:53 AM   #1354
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Today I received issue #8 (Excelsior) and #9 (Defiant). Up until now, all of my issues have not displayed the issue number on the front cover. However issue #8 arrived with the number (and pricing) on the cover. Oddly, issue #9 has no number. Now my OCD is acting up!
Yeah, my #4 and #5 arrived a week or so ago, and they both had numbers, whereas none of the first three did. I actually like the numbers there; I hope they continue.

Still no binder, though....
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Old July 25 2014, 01:54 PM   #1355
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I was just wondering whilst watching it whether that was because they were chosen to be more familiar to viewers as Starfleet ships, or if it was because the details on the Steamrunners & Sabers weren't up to scratch
I suspect, as you say, the surface details likely didn't bear close scrutiny, and the best appearance they could hope for was background space-filler. With any luck, if the DS9 episodes ever get redone once the TNG remasterings are finished, they'll likely have spruced them up for HD usage and we'll get to see them again.
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Old July 25 2014, 02:42 PM   #1356
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For the collection they'll likely be creating new CGI templates for ships lacking enough detail (or in the case of the Norway, one at all). The Steamrunner is one that I'm really looking forward to.

So they might look into reducing costs and getting the most out of the creation of them by maybe using them in any HD remasterings.
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Old July 25 2014, 06:19 PM   #1357
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Had a look at The Changing Face of Evil again, and there are some better close ups.

The Steamrunner looks ok, the Saber though I can kinda see there's not 100% detail.
Still I hope there are models for them; always loved those new ships.








And if they do start running out of Starfleet ships, there's always the DS9 kitbashes

Ha, the USS Centaur was cool, but really not sure on some of the others...
(In fact, though the Centaur was a model, there must be CGI renderings of it as I recall the Star Trek Fact Files had some nice CGI shots of it, and that was back in 2002)
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Old July 25 2014, 06:49 PM   #1358
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The Akira and Steamrunner have the most completed models, still being used. The Sabre never was really rendered in any detail except for looking directly at the bow or stern.

The Norway was lost in a HDD transfer in the late 90's but there have been low pass level renders of it since then, so there is at least one shoddy model.

I think we'll see better ones being made over the next while, if only for things like the collection.
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Old July 25 2014, 07:17 PM   #1359
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During the SDCC "Ships of the Line" panel, moderated by someone from Eaglemoss, they confirmed that the Enterprise-J (along with the E-C, which was confirmed a few weeks ago) will be part of the collection.

It's about half way down this article:
http://www.startrek.com/article/sdcc...e-fashion-show
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Old July 25 2014, 09:49 PM   #1360
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Never been a big fan if the E-J but I must confess, ever since seeing it on Azati Prime, I've wanted to know what it looks like from all angles. It's probably one of the least-seen and least-understood canonical ships. Still wondering if the decks are laterally stacked instead of conventionally. Hopefully the accompanying book will flesh out this one in particular.
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Old July 25 2014, 10:20 PM   #1361
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Never been a big fan if the E-J but I must confess, ever since seeing it on Azati Prime, I've wanted to know what it looks like from all angles. It's probably one of the least-seen and least-understood canonical ships. Still wondering if the decks are laterally stacked instead of conventionally. Hopefully the accompanying book will flesh out this one in particular.
Agreed. Unfortunately I think the book will be similar to some of the other background ships we've seen thus far, where the book is mostly about the design and the episodes it was featured in.
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Old July 25 2014, 11:06 PM   #1362
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It's probably one of the least-seen and least-understood canonical ships.
It is canon, but it wasn't it an alternate timeline to be fair.
Seen as it was seen at the Battle of Procyon V, where the Delphic Expanse takes up half the galaxy, "it extends 50,000 light years in all directions and it is growing."

Seen as Archer and co stopped the Sphere Builders at the end of s3, and their Expanse-generating-spheres, didn't that mean that precise future will no longer happen in "Trek Prime"'s future'?
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Old July 26 2014, 12:51 AM   #1363
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Seen as Archer and co stopped the Sphere Builders at the end of s3, and their Expanse-generating-spheres, didn't that mean that precise future will no longer happen in "Trek Prime"'s future'?
Yes. The Sphere Builders existed in the future, used the TCW as a way of taking out the Federation in the past and slaving the Xindi into making the spheres terraform the galaxy well ahead of their 26th century attempts.

So maybe there is an Enterprise J in either case, just in the "original" timeline she was battling the Sphere Builders just starting out making the spheres in 2550's in normal space.

I'll still be buying one, I'm one of the few people who seems to love the design.
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Old July 26 2014, 03:18 AM   #1364
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Here's what i'm hoping for:

Vulcan shuttle and warp sled
Olympic
All the Xindi ships, including Degra's
The Antares (TOS-R)/The Huron (TAS)
The Merchantman
The D'kyr type
The Cheyenne & the New Orleans (best of the BOBW kitbashes)
The Medusan ship (TOS-R)
Breen cruiser
Heiarchy ship (just because its so weird)
Malon freighter
Caretaker's array
Species 8472 bioship
Borg Queen diamond
Daedelus
Spacedock, Regula 1 and Orbital Office complex
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Old July 26 2014, 04:26 AM   #1365
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Got issue 9 the other day which is the defiant model and got some interesting info about the ship I didn't know,the nose section of the ship where the navigational deflector is and where it uses at ds9 is capable of detaching from the ship and used as a missile filled with torpedos and the rest of the ship would landed on a nearby planet.
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