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Old July 7 2014, 07:11 PM   #151
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Re: Netflix Presents: Orange is the New Black

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Just watched the finale. LOVED the final scene, that's how you build up to a payoff.
Also just finished the season last night. That final scene was amazing. I was watching it with my girlfriend, and actually "called it", but I thought that it was going to be more along the lines of an accident versus straight up on purpose. That Rosa can be a stone-cold bitch, haha!

It definitely looks like the walls are crashing down around Caputo, which is kind of sad because I like his character and was hoping things would work out for him. Now he's got two inmates escaped, with one possibly/probably dead (although the other will possibly/probably die soon anyway).
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Old July 8 2014, 03:27 AM   #152
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Just watched the finale. LOVED the final scene, that's how you build up to a payoff.
Also just finished the season last night. That final scene was amazing. I was watching it with my girlfriend, and actually "called it", but I thought that it was going to be more along the lines of an accident versus straight up on purpose. That Rosa can be a stone-cold bitch, haha!

It definitely looks like the walls are crashing down around Caputo, which is kind of sad because I like his character and was hoping things would work out for him. Now he's got two inmates escaped, with one possibly/probably dead (although the other will possibly/probably die soon anyway).

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Old July 8 2014, 04:04 AM   #153
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Wait. Do we think Vee might not be dead? Gah.
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Old July 8 2014, 04:49 AM   #154
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Vee looked pretty dead lying there on the ground. I suppose it's possible some scrambling life saving surgery could take place, but if she did survive she would definitely go to maximum security. At least, to have her back, not paralyzed, alive, in Litchfield, would take a bigger contrivance than all the ones we've forgiven them for put together.

I think Caputo lost all likability permanently when he threatened to send Diaz to maximum.
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Old July 9 2014, 03:11 AM   #155
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Caputo just wants to situation out of mind. Its already solved for the most part right now. Why have Diaz mess it up. It's a slippery slope and Im sure we will see Caputo fall into the same trappings as the former assistant warden.
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Old July 9 2014, 04:27 AM   #156
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Wait. Do we think Vee might not be dead? Gah.
She's definitely a goner. The character was only meant for this season, her arc is over and there would be no reason to bring her back.

That being said, I've seen showrunners do stupid things before (bringing back Syler on Heroes?)
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Old July 17 2014, 03:59 PM   #157
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I think I saw a thread over in the Voyager forum, but this probably more accurately belongs here. Orange is the New Black is the new show from Netflix, about an affluent woman who is convicted of a crime she committed ten years ago, and her struggles adapting to prison life. It stars Taylor Schilling, Jason Biggs, Laura Prepon, and Kate Mulgrew as an older inmate.

I watched the first episode last night, and thought it was hilarious. I'm looking forward to watching the rest of this season, and from the reviews it looks like Netflix has another winner on their hands.
My boyfriend and I have been wanting to see this show. Is it really good?
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Old July 17 2014, 04:05 PM   #158
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Yes, it really is but some people may balk at some aspects. A friend can't get past the "vulgarity" in it, although everyone else in our clique has latched onto the show whole heartedly.
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It's a great show, but yeah, you have to be prepared to deal with lots of sex, nudity, swearing, and some pretty uncomfortable situations.
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Old July 17 2014, 08:49 PM   #160
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Like the back of a Volkswagon?

Wait, I messed that up.
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Old July 18 2014, 12:01 AM   #161
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Caputo just wants to situation out of mind. Its already solved for the most part right now. Why have Diaz mess it up. It's a slippery slope and Im sure we will see Caputo fall into the same trappings as the former assistant warden.
Threatening to send a pregnant woman into unlivable conditions to protect your career is even worse than anything she did.

There's no slippery slope here, he plunged immediately right off the cliff.
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Old July 19 2014, 06:51 AM   #162
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I don't know how I'm going to survive until next summer! It's such a good show.
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Old July 19 2014, 07:47 AM   #163
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Threatening to send a pregnant woman into unlivable conditions to protect your career is even worse than anything she did.
I guess I didn't really see it that way. He basically told a woman who he knew was guilty (although not legally guilty, just morally) that she should keep her mouth shut and stay where she's at. Which, by the way, Litchfield may be shitty but it's still better than max. He swept it under the carpet.
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Old July 19 2014, 05:50 PM   #164
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Caputo is also the same guy who accepted a blow job in exchange for covering up crimes that he had already turned a woman in for. In a way he's worse than Mendes and Healy, he is consciously willing to do anything to anybody in order to advance his career, and he's got a community of defenseless women some of whom committed nonviolent crimes to inflict his career on.

Mendes and Healy at least can argue 'Diminished capacity' for their awfulness. Caputo is fully capable of making good moral decisions and chooses not to.
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Old July 19 2014, 08:13 PM   #165
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Finally finished the series and let myself take a look at the thread...

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Caputo is also the same guy who accepted a blow job in exchange for covering up crimes that he had already turned a woman in for. In a way he's worse than Mendes and Healy, he is consciously willing to do anything to anybody in order to advance his career, and he's got a community of defenseless women some of whom committed nonviolent crimes to inflict his career on.

Mendes and Healy at least can argue 'Diminished capacity' for their awfulness. Caputo is fully capable of making good moral decisions and chooses not to.
I saw it a little differently. The thing with Figueroa was personal, payback for her being so awful. I think his intentions for running the prison really were basically good, as he represented them. Then, he got to take charge and immediately something went wrong and he panicked. He went with his immediate reaction and took quick and dirty steps to cover his ass. But he's definitely not all good; what he did with CO Fisher was really shitty.

What I didn't get was why Bennett didn't tell Caputo that they'd have a DNA test done on the baby, which would make Caputo look even worse. Or why Daya didn't tell Bennet the same thing when she was trying to get him to turn himself in.

Other things:
I was surprised by Morello's backstory. I thought she was basically sweet and boy-crazy (though casually racist), but it turned out she has really serious problems.

I liked how the Piper stories were somewhat de-emphasized. It seems like everyone else's problems are more interesting than hers.
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