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View Poll Results: Who is the best James Bond?
Sir Sean Connery 49 42.24%
David Niven 1 0.86%
George Lazenby 3 2.59%
Sir Roger Moore 12 10.34%
Timothy Dalton 14 12.07%
Pierce Brosnan 17 14.66%
Daniel Craig 20 17.24%
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Old July 18 2014, 01:36 AM   #61
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Re: Who is the Best 007?

^Good post.
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Old July 18 2014, 01:50 AM   #62
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Re: Who is the Best 007?

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and on a slight tangent: for your eyes only almost had an awesome themesong by blondie.

About Bond themes: One of my favorites is Sheryl Crow's theme to Tomorrow Never Dies - except for the opening line, which still creeps me WAY the hell out:

"Darling I'm killed...I'm in a puddle on the floor..."

What the FUCK?
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Old July 18 2014, 01:55 AM   #63
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David Niven: Seriously? "One of these things is not like the others...."
Maybe they should have gone with Woody Allen.
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Old July 18 2014, 02:09 AM   #64
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Re: Who is the Best 007?

If we're counting Bond parodies, it's worth noting that Moore first played Bond in 1964:

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Old July 18 2014, 04:03 AM   #65
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"Darling I'm killed...I'm in a puddle on the floor..."

What the FUCK?
Have you not seen many Bond movies? His love interests get murdered all the time. Not defending that as an artistic choice, but in the 007 franchise context, your alarm is... strange.
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Old July 18 2014, 09:42 AM   #66
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Avon wrote: View Post
and on a slight tangent: for your eyes only almost had an awesome themesong by blondie.
I like that a lot more than what they settled on.
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Old July 19 2014, 03:19 PM   #67
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The Bond of the novels actually comes across as someone who doesn't have friends and doesn't want them, because all they bring you is pain. He's really a sad, sad man.
And the man who portrays this quite well is Craig.

For a good reason why Bond's like you said he is, read the short story Quantum of Solace, and then this synopsis/analysis of why Bond's like he is.
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Old July 21 2014, 09:32 PM   #68
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I know everyone loves Connery, and he originated and was very good in the role, but if you read Fleming's original novels, Daniel Craig is the closest to Fleming's conception of Bond, with Dalton a close second.
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Old July 22 2014, 01:45 AM   #69
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Re: Who is the Best 007?

Dalton!
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Old July 23 2014, 02:46 AM   #70
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Re: Who is the Best 007?

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"Darling I'm killed...I'm in a puddle on the floor..."

What the FUCK?
Have you not seen many Bond movies? His love interests get murdered all the time. Not defending that as an artistic choice, but in the 007 franchise context, your alarm is... strange.
Of course there's a lot of death in the films, it's just kind of weird to hear it in a SONG lyric.
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Old July 23 2014, 11:04 AM   #71
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Reportedly the song is from the POV of Paris Carver. Even some of her dialogue is similar to Crow's lyric:

"It's murder on relationships"/"It's Murder on our love affair."


I actually prefer the more traditional song heard in the credits-K.D Lang's Surrender-which was also used as the basis for the movie's recurring action 'theme.'
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Old July 23 2014, 04:23 PM   #72
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Mr. Laser Beam wrote: View Post
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"Darling I'm killed...I'm in a puddle on the floor..."

What the FUCK?
Have you not seen many Bond movies? His love interests get murdered all the time. Not defending that as an artistic choice, but in the 007 franchise context, your alarm is... strange.
Of course there's a lot of death in the films, it's just kind of weird to hear it in a SONG lyric.
Not really, death is hinted at in a few Bond songs.

"A View to a Kill"

Meeting you, with a view to a kill

"License to Kill"


Got a license to kill

"Goldfinger"

It's the kiss of death fromMister Goldfinger.

"The Man With the Golden Gun"


One golden shot means another poor victim
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Old July 23 2014, 04:26 PM   #73
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^ I would guess that even in the Bond themes that do mention death, most are not in the first person POV of someone who has been killed. That might fit The Walking Dead better than 007.
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Old July 23 2014, 08:48 PM   #74
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Roger Moore: He was easy to dismiss back when he was the current Bond and I was longing for a more Fleming-based approach, but the man and his films were always highly entertaining in their own right. What's more (especially considering some of the casting choices that the producers flirted with in the early 70s), I've come to greatly appreciate Moore's role in proving the longevity of the franchise beyond Connery, shepherding the role through seven films and the better part of two decades...thus ensuring that the series would live to see more Fleming-evocative days.
I'm very much in that Moore-bashing camp, but that's an excellent way to put his run, and it's made me rethink my stance just a bit. He won't be #1 anytime soon on my personal list, but there's a bit of newfound appreciation for his run.
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Old July 24 2014, 12:41 AM   #75
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If my post has caused one person to give Moore the benefit of the doubt, I'm gratified.

Reportedly there was a lot of doubt regarding the life of the movie series after Connery left...conventional wisdom back in the day seemed to be that it would go the way of Connery and the 60s. The generally poor reception of Lazenby and OHMSS only supported that view. Moore's run not only kept the franchise going, but very successfully; it proved beyond a doubt that the series could be a success under different lead actors; it allowed for a new generation of Bond fans to come aboard during his run, including myself; and when he was ready to pass the torch, those of us who'd been wanting a different approach to the character got Dalton, Brosnan, and Craig. In the long run, Moore's stewardship did a lot of good for the franchise.

And FWIW, though Dalton is my traditional personal favorite Bond, and OHMSS is my personal favorite movie...taking a more objective view, I consider the "best" Bond film, as a whole package, to be The Spy Who Loved Me. YMMV.
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