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Old July 19 2014, 04:45 AM   #196
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Re: Phase II begins re-filming "Mind Sifter"

Um...I like Phase II, I love the "Mind Sifter" short story, and I'm really looking forward to seeing Phase II bring it to life.
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Old July 19 2014, 05:03 AM   #197
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Re: Phase II begins re-filming "Mind Sifter"

As do I. That guy playing Kor looks pretty good.
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Old July 19 2014, 06:22 AM   #198
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I read the short story in the mass market collection (Bantam?), and thought it would have been an interesting episode. Hope to see what they do with it.
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Old July 19 2014, 07:24 PM   #199
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It turned out amazing!
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Old July 20 2014, 02:50 AM   #200
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Can't come out soon enough!
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Old July 22 2014, 01:31 AM   #201
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Re: Phase II begins re-filming "Mind Sifter"

I apologize that [name redacted by Moderator--Mod] chose to come here and continue his obsessive vendetta which he has been sending to folks via pm and email. It doesn't belong here in public.

My only response is that he has no personal knowledge of my relationship with, nor was he involved in the discussions with Mr. Cawley concerning the Mind Sifter episode and what script would be used...despite his quoting pieces of later conversations.

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You wrote this:
A brand new script was written by Rick Chambers - it wasn't "reworked".

Yet you continually claim that they plagiarized your script despite public and private assurances that they did not. Did you read what you yourself wrote just in the quote made by you above?
Yeah, if you READ the thread that statement by me is the one that Mr. Schnitzer disputed by stating I was wrong...hence leading to my discussion with the producers in private.

Please keep this stuff private and stop the stalking...or I'll be forced to file a slander suit.

And I am not the only one that posts "FYI about Phase II" posts here - just the only person you have problems with. If you guys posted your own stuff here we wouldn't be inclined to share with others. There are a lot of people who don't do FaceBook.

To doubleohfive: I am not a liar. And I also post on other threads for other productions I don't work for any longer...why don't you spread your personal attacks around instead of just here.


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Patty,

You claim to be best friends with James yet he often calls you out for basically making his life miserable.

"Patty, I am the one who told you that I was not filming your script, not the other way around after you publicly posted here on the BBS, that you had to do a rewrite to make the story better fit Brian Gross and his acting style, because you wrote it for mine, Lol. A rewrite which i did not ask for or want. Your need to bicker is quite literally unbelievable.

Our version is not your script and is based on both the published and un published versions, although it leans more to the published version."

You claim you no longer work for the production yet for some reason feel obliged to keep insinuating your self into production matters/updates under the guise of "just sharing". However, that may be construed as stalking.

June 23, 2014 post #1
"No, Kieth. I'm not "back working for Phase II again"....just sharing for other folks that might be interested as I didn't see anyone else share the info here."

Really? There is an entire FB forum devoted to P2 where people can go for info.

You are not the publicist for P2. Why do you continue to make it your "crusade" to "share" and then start debates?
You've stated that you left P2 on amicable terms yet post things like this:

"If I was "working again" there'd be a lot more accuracy to the shots above...but that's probably one of the reasons it would be inconvenient to have me working again."

You post FB posts that were removed from the site by James Cawley. Why would you do that? If Cawley removed a post, he didn't want it broadcast. Why would you deliberately do something that goes against the wishes of a friend?
What's even more troubling is that you have instant access to all of these "deleted posts". You seem to have saved every single post ever made on FB by any member of the production team or P2.

And you talk about yourself In the third person!

"Well, then, Mr. Schnitzer, Phase II has a HUGE issue to deal with. Ms. Patty Wright withdrew all rights to the original script and all material contained within it. Phase II was told, bluntly, that they could not use anything contained in the script - which is registered with the WGA, and, therefore, anything used from it can be proven. Ms. Patty Wright was assured that Mr. Rick Chambers went back to the original story and did not even have access to Ms. Wright's script."

You post patently false information:

"They are completely refilming the episode because James decided he'd rather start over from scratch than to have me participate in finishing the filming of my script."

James has stated over and over again that they re filmed because he stepped down as Kirk and put in Brian Gross.

You wrote this:
A brand new script was written by Rick Chambers - it wasn't "reworked".

Yet you continually claim that they plagiarized your script despite public and private assurances that they did not. Did you read what you yourself wrote just in the quote made by you above?

You claim that talking about P2 brings you stress and exacerbates your health issues yet you continually start posts about P2 and even reach out to current and former P2 personnel to try and drag them into mudslinging about others. If something in my life brought me such stress as you claim I wouldn't keep putting myself into the middle of it.

From James himself:

"You need to move on and start enjoying your life instead of endlessly living in eternal drama and trying to start a crisis. It is exactly this type of ridiculous nonsense that has alienated you from so many people, and makes me scratch my head. I do wish you well, but you make even that hard with this type of behavior."

Patty, do yourself and everyone else a favor - get over it! Walk away!

You claim to be a mental health professional, maybe it's time to take a good long look in the mirror and for your own sanity, walk away from anything P2 related.

As far as your claim of selling a script to Chico and all those who say you are lying.... Well, I really hope it's true. Even if just in your version of reality. Because it seems to be the one thing in your life that was actually a good thing. You need to get on with your life and make other good things happen.
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Old July 22 2014, 01:49 AM   #202
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Re: Phase II begins re-filming "Mind Sifter"

Let me put it this way:
There's an obvious difference between FYIs and FYIs - and this thread has made it more than lucid!

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Old July 22 2014, 03:30 PM   #203
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This is just sad. Please. Stop.
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Old July 22 2014, 04:54 PM   #204
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if Patty still likes Phase II that much, she should do what it takes to get back on their team. The feud between Phase II and Continues is bad enough. It would be nice to see a happy ending to an infighting issue for a change. These things have a way of being unintended misunderstandings that just spiral out of control. But once you air the dirty laundry out in the public like this it's hard to put it back in the bottle because it's made both sides look bad in the process.
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Old July 22 2014, 07:58 PM   #205
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Re: Phase II begins re-filming "Mind Sifter"

I've seen the new shooting script for MINDSIFTER, and I can attest that it is NOTHING like Patty's script (Which I have also seen)... It is MUCH, MUCH better.

Patty...for the love of all things Trek, please stop this. It's done. It's over. Move on. You have pretty much set in stone, the fact that you will never, EVER be welcome back at P II. You did this to yourself. No one else did it. Take responsibility for it. Grow up and own it, and then move on. THIS kind of obsessive behavior proves why you have made yourself unwelcome. Stop embarrassing yourself.

Why the admin hasn't killed this thread several pages back is beyond me....
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Old July 22 2014, 09:24 PM   #206
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I've reported it.
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Old July 22 2014, 09:51 PM   #207
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I've seen the new shooting script for MINDSIFTER, and I can attest that it is NOTHING like Patty's script (Which I have also seen)... It is MUCH, MUCH better.

Patty...for the love of all things Trek, please stop this. It's done. It's over. Move on. You have pretty much set in stone, the fact that you will never, EVER be welcome back at P II. You did this to yourself. No one else did it. Take responsibility for it. Grow up and own it, and then move on. THIS kind of obsessive behavior proves why you have made yourself unwelcome. Stop embarrassing yourself.

Why the admin hasn't killed this thread several pages back is beyond me....
Stop what? I came here and shared some stuff from FaceBook. All the other stuff is you guys. In fact, [Name redacted by Moderator--Mod] came here after two years and all the nonsense was done to make his third post on this board - an entire post of character assassination. Someone is obsessed. And, yes, STOP. You guys are embarrassing and are taking the focus off the new episode to obsess about me. I'm gone...leave me alone.

Two notes.... 1. YOU do not make those kinds of decisions or pronouncements. 2. The current script has Admiral Withrow in it, doesn't it? Are you aware that is something I added to the story? Don't answer...this stuff was settled weeks ago, no need to bring it back up despite [Name redacted
by Moderator--Mod] and you desperately trying to do so. Just pointing out that all these "side folks with opinions" don't actually know the story closely enough to notice things that Greg did. There's a reason there are producers to handle these things.

mos6507 - I will always love Phase II and James, and will always be there when he needs something. He knows that. I can love it from a fan's perspective, though... I don't want to be back in the group that includes people like [Name redacted by Moderator--Mod] and JimTheBuilder who actively seek out to create drama and other nonsense.
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Old July 22 2014, 10:32 PM   #208
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Re: Phase II begins re-filming "Mind Sifter"

"We need a moderator here! Patty is making my behavior get out of control!"

The two scripts are nothing alike? Really? How can that be? So which one has lots of elements from the Shirley Maiewski "Mind-Sifter" short story and which one contains absolutely none of those elements? They can't both rely on the original short story and be nothing alike. Even I can see that, and I'm an idiot.

I think that pre-production reviews noted that both scripts (which were to have been developed independently of one another) shared some commonalities which didn't exist in the original source material upon which the two scripts were based. It wasn't immediately obvious how, given our rock-solid scripting process, such improbable commonalities would arise:



This "better script" does raise an interesting question: is it better because of elements from the original source material that the earlier script didn't include? Or, rather, is it better because it now eliminates some of those source material elements? Or is it better because of interesting new elements that are now scripted that we're never even part of Shirley's short story?

No need to answer; the questions are both moot and rhetorical. (Also, I've locked the thread in an effort to stop some kind of dysfunctional feedback loop that seems to have developed. I know, I know: a day late and a dollar short.)

Yes, pretty much the hardest part of my moderating job is policing my own Phase II brethren.

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I've seen the new shooting script for MINDSIFTER, and I can attest that it is NOTHING like Patty's script (Which I have also seen)... It is MUCH, MUCH better.

Patty...for the love of all things Trek, please stop this. It's done. It's over. Move on. You have pretty much set in stone, the fact that you will never, EVER be welcome back at P II. You did this to yourself. No one else did it. Take responsibility for it. Grow up and own it, and then move on. THIS kind of obsessive behavior proves why you have made yourself unwelcome. Stop embarrassing yourself.

Why the admin hasn't killed this thread several pages back is beyond me....
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