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Old June 24 2014, 04:11 AM   #121
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Re: Will a "Hero" try and go back in time and fix Vulcan's Destruction

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They just need cyan matter to invert it. Or something. See? Easy.
Considering that making magic red matter canceling stuff probably needs technology that wouldn't be invented for over a century, no it's not easy.

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Assuming you can time travel back in this timeline... you just have Spock detonate the Red Matter right after exit. Vulcan survives.
They don't have any red matter it all went up with Nero.
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Old June 24 2014, 10:39 AM   #122
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I'm thinking Spock secreted some away. In a cavity.
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Old June 24 2014, 02:32 PM   #123
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I'm thinking Spock secreted some away. In a cavity.
He better hope a black hole doesn't open up in his black hole. That could be messy!
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Old June 24 2014, 03:08 PM   #124
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Re: Will a "Hero" try and go back in time and fix Vulcan's Destruction

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They just need cyan matter to invert it. Or something. See? Easy.
Considering that making magic red matter canceling stuff probably needs technology that wouldn't be invented for over a century, no it's not easy.
It was a joke. Sheesh.
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Old June 24 2014, 03:16 PM   #125
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It was a joke. Sheesh.
You see... this is exactly how the trouble starts. You're working on a Star Trek film. The scene isn't working. You need somebody to distract an army of alien bandits, while Kirk & Spock steal their horses.

A softly spoken voice at the back of the room, idly jokes "Why not get Uhura to do a fan dance? Naked."
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Old June 26 2014, 09:11 AM   #126
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Seriously this happens all the time, even someone as useless as Harry Kim managed to go back in time and wrench the timeline back to his preferred trajectory.

Every single Vulcan survivor would like to see their planet not destroyed. Vulcans are hugely intelligent and given to monomania, one of them being tipped over the edge of deeeep research into obsession seems likely.

You know if one of them wanted to either stop the destruction and crush the timelines back together OR jump timeline and exist in the one where Vulcan survives they could. They could totally do it. Might take a few decades though who knows, maybe a whole sect of Return to the Timeline Vulcans will spring up and it will go faster than that. The E2 crew devoted generations to saving Earth.
Be here in a decade or two when a new forum is opened for the rebooted Trek. The howls will be glorious, especially if Enterprise is still canon.
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Old June 26 2014, 11:16 AM   #127
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I'm reminded of the old DS9 Millennium trilogy of novels, where Worf tells of enormous Klingon fleets which were built and slingshotted around the sun, with a mission to conquer Earth in the distant past. They were never heard from again, and there was debate as to whether they were destroyed while attempting the time travel, or whether they succeeded but in a branching alternate history. And this was written nine years before the Trek reboot!
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Old June 27 2014, 08:09 AM   #128
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The Millenium trilogy gave me a headache, enjoyable though it was
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Old June 29 2014, 01:09 AM   #129
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I do so love my fanwank bullshit. No better way to celebrate 50 years than a nice ole bit of fanwank bullshit.
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They just need cyan matter to invert it. Or something. See? Easy.
Wasn't that in the comic books?

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The Millenium trilogy gave me a headache, enjoyable though it was
Thoroughly enjoyed Millenium.... thought it would have made a great feature film, had DS9 gone that route.

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IMO delivering that hammer blow to the Vulcan race showed astute artistic vision. Being 'Vulcan' heretofore meant what? Logic? Mystic? Repression? Fanatic? Just plain snotty? CNTL-ALT-DEL = welcome.
Uh... this isn't making sense?
My point is that what it means to be Vulcan changed significantly through the course of the various films and TV shows and IMO the race came out worse for wear. I'm less hung up on the emotionless vs emotionally suppressed topic than I am with the fact that as we move forward in real time, Vulcans are increasingly seen looking down their noses at humans. T'Pol was the ultimate representation of snotty Vulcan. Moreover, Enterprise attempted to reboot the Vulcans in season 4 via a healthy revolution. That was also welcome. I don't think every Vulcan must behave like Spock, but when most representatives of the race demonstrate an asshole superiority complex, it's time for a change.

Resetting the Vulcan race via the destruction of their world and the fresh start on New Vulcan, especially with Nimoy-Spock in charge, gives me hope that Vulcans can and will become again the ally mentor race we last saw in First Contact.
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Old July 12 2014, 08:08 PM   #130
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Love that avatar of yours Ryan8bit.

Narada began the alternate timeline by killing off Kirk's father--not by destroying Vulcan, so time travel of the more usual type could still be in order.
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Old July 12 2014, 09:34 PM   #131
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The Narada began the alternate timeline just by showing up in 2233, before killing anyone.
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Old July 12 2014, 11:10 PM   #132
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The fact there was a "lightning storm in space" near the Klingon sector of space - for want of a more better description of the phenomenon - was its beginning perhaps?

A divergence, whereby observers in the original universe notice that, but nothing happens while readings are being taken and so eventually they move off. While in another that branches off, because the Narada emerges and all hell breaks loose.

Something to close the rift should do it. A message to the past, requiring the U.S.S. Kelvin to fire a beam from their deflector dish.

Unless like the presence of the Narada, it's the phenomenon which exists in one universe and not another. So the U.S.S. Kelvin never diverted from their course, to go check it out.
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Old July 13 2014, 04:22 PM   #133
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Re: Will a "Hero" try and go back in time and fix Vulcan's Destruction

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Something to close the rift should do it. A message to the past, requiring the U.S.S. Kelvin to fire a beam from their deflector dish.
Yeah I could totally see the Kelvin's crew screwing with their deflector just becuase some guy shows up and tells them they can make it fire some technobable bulls@#t beam that can do anything to close a space rift into the two seconds before Nero shows up instead of locking the person up for clearly being some kind of nutjob.
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Old July 13 2014, 04:45 PM   #134
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Yeah I could totally see the Kelvin's crew screwing with their deflector just becuase some guy shows up and tells them they can make it fire some technobable bulls@#t beam that can do anything to close a space rift into the two seconds before Nero shows up instead of locking the person up for clearly being some kind of nutjob.
Maybe if Captain Kirk told them, without rolling his eyeballs into the back of his head? I imagine Robau wouldn't take kindly to that.
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Old July 14 2014, 07:40 AM   #135
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I think they should have Capt Picard travel to the JJ verse to retrieve spock prime and restore the timeline.
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